.22 Power.

I would have to agree regarding the accuracy over speed comments. I have never recovered a 22 bullet from a rabbit. They almost always go right through, even subsonics like Magtech that were almost a bucket (big hollow point). As such, when shooting rabbits, increasd speed will fall (flatten the curve.....) but the additional energy simply makes a deeper hole behind the animal you just shot....

I have always had better success with subsonics than I have with hyper velocity, but mostly due to accuracy and my practise / familiarity with the trajectory.

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I have achieved the most consistent results at 100m shooting at metal plates using CCI Standard and MiniMag. If I was to choose a runner-up it would be Stinger.

CCI Sub-sonics: 40gr 1050 fps
CCI Standard: 32gr 1070 fps
CCI MiniMag: 38gr 1260 fps
CCI Velocitor: 40gr 1435 fps
CCi Stinger: 32gr 1640 fps
CCI Copper: 21gr 1850 fps

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Man, that Velocitor stuff hauls ass! Must be C4 in those cases to achieve 1435fps with a 40 gr.

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Originally Posted by outlander

Man, that Velocitor stuff hauls ass! Must be C4 in those cases to achieve 1435fps with a 40 gr.

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It doesn't, it goes about the same as CCI Mini mag

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Originally Posted by Beavis

It doesn't, it goes about the same as CCI Mini mag

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Ah, okay.

From my range testing of super quick 1700+fps Fiocchi I found it had half the drop at distance and half the accuracy. Wasn't good enough - accuracy is king for a 22.

We effectively shoot bunnies at 100m with ammos that group well in a specific 22. Sometimes high velocity ammos (1200-1300fps) can shoot just as accurately at 100 as subs (down to half inch groups at 100m) - depends totally on the individual rifle.

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Man, that Velocitor stuff hauls ass! Must be C4 in those cases to achieve 1435fps with a 40 gr.

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Got a bloody piercing crack to it that’s for sure.

Those (winchester I think) 40grn power points must be up there.

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Got a bloody piercing crack to it that’s for sure.

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I'll have to chrono some soonest, but not in the 1902 Winchester!

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Those (winchester I think) 40grn power points must be up there.

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Used a hell of a lot of both Winchester Sub and Power Point both 40 gr. In the Marlin I once had muzzle velocity of Win Power Point was 1240 Av and Subsonic in my Ruger was at 1050 fps. Both these rounds were capable of good accuracy out to 75 -80 yards with shots at 100 still being doable. An accurate rifle is important but plenty of practice helps a lot.

Accuracy is great but accuracy and good expansion is better.
I always had good accuracy and terminal performance from Australian 40grpowerpoint.....American was different and may as well have been solid cos it didnt expand.
The Winchester 42gr sub (Australian ) shot very well in my rifle and hit with a wallop...didn't get runners with a engine room shot.
Couldn't find them for a while went cci sub, shot very well maybe slightly better than the win but it doesnt put down rabbits and hares the same, I dont think it expands at all.
Just got a brick of American 42gr whinny supersonic.....I hope they have learnt off the Australians......

Yep - a slow certain hit is better than a fast certain miss.

I found the same when I ran out of Winchester subs and used CCI,more runners as they had a tiny hollow point compared to the Winchester which hit with a resounding thump and stopped game dead in their tracks.

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Accuracy is great but accuracy and good expansion is better.
I always had good accuracy and terminal performance from Australian 40grpowerpoint.....American was different and may as well have been solid cos it didnt expand.
The Winchester 42gr sub (Australian ) shot very well in my rifle and hit with a wallop...didn't get runners with a engine room shot.
Couldn't find them for a while went cci sub, shot very well maybe slightly better than the win but it doesnt put down rabbits and hares the same, I dont think it expands at all.
Just got a brick of American 42gr whinny supersonic.....I hope they have learnt off the Australians......

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Last Australian 22 I saw was 17 years ago. It was cheap and deadly accurate.

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Last Australian 22 I saw was 17 years ago. It was cheap and deadly accurate.

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The 42gr super and sub was designed and made in Aus up until not long ago as far as I am aware.
I think they must have stopped making the 40gr powerpoint when they started the 42gr as supply of that dryed up pretty early on.

Anyone tried CCI 3-segment HPs?