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Thread: 25-06 why hasn't it achieved fame and success in New Zealand?

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Rock river arms hunter 25-06 why hasn't it achieved... 20-04-2012, 10:03 AM
mattdw I'd never heard of it until... 20-04-2012, 10:39 AM
Bulltahr AAAAhhhhh says who? I know... 20-04-2012, 10:57 AM
gimp From my perspective, these... 20-04-2012, 11:32 AM
NEO I knew some people brought... 24-06-2019, 11:57 AM
crnkin Agreed. It's trajectory is... 20-04-2012, 12:36 PM
sneeze I think lot of guys early in... 20-04-2012, 12:37 PM
Rock river arms hunter Yes it does require a 24"... 20-04-2012, 01:30 PM
RimfireNZ A lot of calibers are much of... 20-04-2012, 04:20 PM
Rock river arms hunter Well thats the thing,it is... 20-04-2012, 04:41 PM
gimp That's my effortpost for the... 20-04-2012, 06:08 PM
Beavis If you do the clickety... 20-04-2012, 05:57 PM
Hiawatha :thumbsup: So true. What... 07-03-2020, 09:49 AM
gimp For my uses, and this is... 20-04-2012, 06:08 PM
crnkin Ive never seen you type so... 20-04-2012, 06:18 PM
baldbob It has nothing to do with... 20-04-2012, 06:23 PM
crnkin Long range shooters, like... 22-04-2012, 10:30 PM
MEB I think it is because 25-06... 23-04-2012, 12:16 PM
gimp Ah, I see you didnt actually... 20-04-2012, 06:33 PM
bill f The short of it is that the... 29-09-2015, 01:43 PM
257weatherby That only applies to the... 29-09-2015, 02:56 PM
Grunta I swear you Plagiarised that... 29-09-2015, 08:37 PM
veitnamcam When I was a teenager I had a... 20-04-2012, 06:48 PM
Beavis I use to be in the same camp... 20-04-2012, 07:49 PM
Rock river arms hunter Ahhh yes the numbers you... 20-04-2012, 08:04 PM
gimp Okay, effortposting again. ... 20-04-2012, 09:39 PM
baldbob I had read that... And I was... 20-04-2012, 09:11 PM
Rock river arms hunter Oh yes I know about the rifle... 20-04-2012, 09:55 PM
gimp Ooh. Yeah. I hate to break it... 20-04-2012, 10:10 PM
Beavis The reason .303 was so... 20-04-2012, 09:59 PM
Barefoot Number one reason why the... 21-04-2012, 12:14 AM
Pnumatix I'm casting my mind back to... 06-07-2012, 05:45 PM
sneeze Reeeeally though I think its... 21-04-2012, 11:38 AM
veitnamcam I thought he used a 300 win... 21-04-2012, 01:25 PM
sneeze In earlier series he... 21-04-2012, 08:38 PM
Rock river arms hunter Yea He's got a remmy 700 CDL... 21-04-2012, 07:29 PM
veitnamcam Shoot 5 more of em and post... 21-04-2012, 08:25 PM
the kid No he's not. Graeme was... 22-04-2012, 01:23 PM
Wildman Geoff would be right into... 22-04-2012, 08:13 PM
sneeze That shows when it comes to... 22-04-2012, 08:32 PM
veitnamcam FFS on nation wide television... 21-04-2012, 08:42 PM
Kudu Are you pissed???? I have... 22-04-2012, 09:11 AM
Tikka7mm08 Sinclair has always struck a... 22-04-2012, 09:06 PM
baldbob I didnt say it doesnt matter... 23-04-2012, 12:43 PM
Tahr If the internet didn't exist,... 23-04-2012, 01:53 PM
Tahr For sure. Being pragmatic... 23-04-2012, 09:01 PM
Josh My Toyota Vista is a shitbox,... 23-04-2012, 02:44 PM
crnkin Sighting a deer rifle in at... 23-04-2012, 07:51 PM
Tahr I was just roughing out the... 23-04-2012, 08:29 PM
veitnamcam How so Crankin? 23-04-2012, 08:55 PM
tui_man2 you have alot of people... 23-04-2012, 09:06 PM
R93 No. Yours is. I rarely test... 23-04-2012, 09:16 PM
Rock river arms hunter sighting in a deer rifle at... 23-04-2012, 08:05 PM
MEB I've never had the... 23-04-2012, 09:08 PM
scottrods I got a 243 - it's short... 23-04-2012, 08:22 PM
Tahr The 3" rule sort of goes like... 23-04-2012, 09:18 PM
Rock river arms hunter the term: "quality doesnt go... 23-04-2012, 09:44 PM
Josh Get him a Baikal so he has to... 23-04-2012, 09:47 PM
Josh Touché :D 24-04-2012, 12:04 AM
Rock river arms hunter the 2506 is cheap and... 27-04-2012, 11:53 PM
Wildman put them over the chrony, I... 28-04-2012, 01:07 AM
Kudu Have you still got that... 28-04-2012, 08:56 AM
Wildman Hell yeah, it's great. Has... 28-04-2012, 10:25 AM
Micky Duck so has my poohseventy.... ... 10-03-2020, 09:04 PM
baldbob I still miss my ole roberts :( 28-04-2012, 01:27 AM
crnkin Heres why. Speaking from... 30-04-2012, 09:28 PM
tui_man2 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA... 30-04-2012, 09:34 PM
R93 My .223 zeroed @ 200yrds wich... 30-04-2012, 09:43 PM
Rock river arms hunter Your a laugh! for a start... 01-05-2012, 01:24 AM
baldbob He still hasnt quite realised... 01-05-2012, 01:55 AM
Barefoot You beat me to that one, It's... 01-05-2012, 09:54 AM
308 I may be drunk and stuck in... 29-09-2015, 10:14 PM
RimfireNZ Chris I think you're... 01-05-2012, 05:29 PM
veitnamcam Chris I hate to say it but... 01-05-2012, 09:23 PM
Homer G'Day Fella's, Tahr, you... 02-05-2012, 10:01 PM
Tahr No 25.06 ever deserved 5... 30-04-2012, 10:22 PM
Rock river arms hunter yes thats exactly what I... 01-05-2012, 03:39 PM
Carlsen Highway You guys do make hunting a... 05-07-2012, 09:47 PM
trooper90 +1 25-04-2019, 01:43 PM
nightowl52 Mine....Remington SS 700 24"... 25-04-2019, 03:22 PM
Boaraxa That's what I use to , or for... 25-04-2019, 05:38 PM
nightowl52 Just put a Sonic 45 on mine... 20-06-2019, 12:16 PM
Pointer It's been proven by a colmar... 29-09-2015, 08:33 PM
257weatherby It's contagious, you catch it... 29-09-2015, 09:45 PM
nightowl52 Haha! Excellent! Oh... 25-04-2019, 03:13 PM
300CALMAN DING DING DING!!! Next round... 29-09-2015, 10:17 PM
Kudu No contest! 25-06 wins as the... 29-09-2015, 10:30 PM
rogers.270 that's not a fair... 30-09-2015, 06:46 AM
veitnamcam 2506 just was never really... 29-09-2015, 11:06 PM
TeRei If I recall correctly Graeme... 30-09-2015, 07:42 PM
veitnamcam How come I cant access any... 25-04-2019, 04:32 PM
NZ_noddy Having read the whole thread,... 25-04-2019, 08:52 PM
Mooseman Had a Ruger Hawkeye in 25 06... 25-04-2019, 07:55 PM
Tribrit Anyone else ever see that... 25-04-2019, 11:44 PM
Micky Duck because we already had the... 25-04-2019, 08:57 PM
Max Headroom Thinking about it a little,... 25-04-2019, 09:12 PM
veitnamcam Oddly the thread showed... 25-04-2019, 10:03 PM
Beaker 6.5x55 Swede, all you need. ... 25-04-2019, 10:21 PM
nor-west If a 100 grain 6mm bullet is... 26-04-2019, 12:25 AM
trooper90 All you really need is the... 26-04-2019, 07:26 AM
csmiffy Always wanted one but never... 01-05-2019, 04:15 PM
stevodog true that...there was a good... 01-05-2019, 08:13 PM
Tim Dicko 6.5-06 would be good. 01-05-2019, 07:12 PM
rigga I've had the 25-06 it's a... 02-05-2019, 03:23 AM
tetawa Had one when they became... 20-06-2019, 04:52 PM
Spitfire Well, I’ve had two of them... 22-06-2019, 10:09 AM
Got Juice? 1/4 bore unfortunately was... 24-06-2019, 03:58 PM
trooper90 Great choice for NZ game 27-02-2020, 11:52 AM
Gibo Necrophiliac 27-02-2020, 11:53 AM
Flyblown Yup. Eight years later and... 27-02-2020, 07:34 PM
chainsaw I can just see it coming... 27-02-2020, 12:54 PM
Mathias Shush you... you'll wake up... 27-02-2020, 03:40 PM
25 /08 IMP I'm awake need more high bc... 27-02-2020, 04:17 PM
Allizdog Interesting read. I will... 27-02-2020, 08:05 PM
Max Headroom Is it fair to say of the... 27-02-2020, 08:09 PM
stevodog I wouldn't go out to buy one... 27-02-2020, 08:33 PM
Flyblown It’s always good to revisit a... 27-02-2020, 09:52 PM
257weatherby My last long term 25/06 was... 27-02-2020, 10:11 PM
Flyblown Yep that’s pretty much... 27-02-2020, 10:38 PM
nor-west I've got one for sale 24... 27-02-2020, 11:24 PM
Spitfire I’ve had two of them. One was... 28-02-2020, 08:32 AM
257weatherby Have looked at this and it... 28-02-2020, 09:01 AM
257weatherby I've been roaming the... 28-02-2020, 09:28 AM
Spitfire My post was my opinion and... 28-02-2020, 10:58 AM
Spitfire ...and I never said... 28-02-2020, 10:59 AM
257weatherby So over a lifetime of... 28-02-2020, 12:54 PM
Flyblown Settle down, it's Friday...... 28-02-2020, 12:41 PM
bumblefoot Years ago when I was young... 28-02-2020, 05:16 PM
Moa Hunter I have a 2506 AI and a 270.... 28-02-2020, 01:19 PM
Flyblown bumblefoot You never stop... 28-02-2020, 06:42 PM
Mooseman Had a Ruger Hawkeye 25 06... 28-02-2020, 07:36 PM
Husky1600 Had one for a number of... 28-02-2020, 08:07 PM
csmiffy Husky1600 there is a cheap... 28-02-2020, 09:28 PM
Husky1600 Just after a barrel, have... 28-02-2020, 10:12 PM
nor-west I love those 1600 Huskys only... 29-02-2020, 12:23 AM
Dicko .25s are more projectile... 29-02-2020, 12:32 AM
Rock river arms hunter I'm amazed this thread is... 29-02-2020, 10:38 AM
Puffin Rock river arms hunter ... 07-03-2020, 01:42 PM
Rock river arms hunter In simple terms my whole... 07-03-2020, 08:36 PM
Buzo Bumped into this the other... 29-02-2020, 01:57 PM
7.62 I’ve never used one but they... 01-03-2020, 02:43 PM
mikee I shot my first ever chamois... 07-03-2020, 10:21 AM
Micky Duck I have a poohseventy so are... 07-03-2020, 07:11 PM
nor-west One of our forum members used... 08-03-2020, 12:50 AM
Tahr Yes, that's what they were.... 08-03-2020, 02:06 PM
Micky Duck silly question....was there a... 07-03-2020, 08:46 PM
nor-west Yes the 25 Souper, very... 07-03-2020, 08:55 PM
mikee 25Souper... 07-03-2020, 08:55 PM
Rock river arms hunter Fairly sure there was 07-03-2020, 09:01 PM
25 /08 IMP I don't think it was ever... 08-03-2020, 06:45 AM
Micky Duck interesting read on that... 07-03-2020, 10:40 PM
Basenjiboy Robbie Tiffen rechambered a... 08-03-2020, 09:16 AM
25 /08 IMP It sure is a great Cal. ... 13-03-2020, 04:33 PM
Micky Duck so for you... 08-03-2020, 03:34 PM
Dama dama Great post Micky Duck "the... 09-03-2020, 09:31 AM
Shearer Can't believe we are on to... 08-03-2020, 04:13 PM
Sideshow Yes but it has only taken 8... 08-03-2020, 10:13 PM
Husky1600 Even tho I was foolish enough... 08-03-2020, 05:38 PM
erniec The long calibers like the... 09-03-2020, 09:33 AM
Tussock OK. Here goes. Back in... 09-03-2020, 09:55 PM
stevodog Yep, I tend to run lighter... 10-03-2020, 07:21 AM
Puffin Take this to the extreme... 10-03-2020, 12:33 PM
nor-west What will the 85gr do in the... 10-03-2020, 11:37 PM
Tussock Rifling is hugely over rated. 10-03-2020, 12:36 PM
Puffin Same. No meaningful increase... 11-03-2020, 09:37 AM
Micky Duck 1000 rounds at 3 bullets to... 12-03-2020, 02:56 PM
nor-west A 25.06 will put a 100 grain... 12-03-2020, 10:19 PM
257weatherby It was a 100 grain Partition... 12-03-2020, 10:38 PM
Micky Duck most 25/06 users dont... 13-03-2020, 09:32 AM
Tussock For there to be any kind of... 13-03-2020, 02:50 PM
nor-west https://ronspomeroutdoors.com/... 13-03-2020, 04:22 PM
rewa Well I've just read and... 19-03-2020, 10:47 AM
Micky Duck tell all that to the old time... 15-03-2020, 07:12 PM
257weatherby Hey nor-west he ( Tussock )... 13-03-2020, 05:13 PM
Kaweka2506 Enjoying this thread that... 14-03-2020, 11:26 AM
Moa Hunter Another thing to consider IMO... 16-03-2020, 10:38 AM
csmiffy From what I've seen from my... 15-03-2020, 08:19 PM
Tikka7mm08 My first rifle was a P14... 16-03-2020, 02:34 PM
Russian 22. If it has those major down... 16-03-2020, 06:17 PM
Shearer 1200ft/lbs of energy is still... 16-03-2020, 06:32 PM
Tikka7mm08 I went to 7mmRM after 2506.... 16-03-2020, 06:46 PM
csmiffy I wonder if any of the... 16-03-2020, 06:47 PM
Ground Control Amen to that . Take... 17-03-2020, 08:19 PM
Micky Duck so plurry true that....see... 16-03-2020, 07:11 PM
257weatherby 25/06 loaded properly:... 16-03-2020, 08:09 PM
Buzo Great load / set up for this... 17-03-2020, 12:09 PM
257weatherby In no particular order: Rem... 17-03-2020, 02:54 PM
nor-west Or a 257 Weatherby even!! 18-03-2020, 12:26 AM
Finnwolf I’m with you there MD! For... 17-03-2020, 08:29 PM
Micky Duck so its the very same WHY the... 16-03-2020, 08:38 PM
Sideshow God this great is... 18-03-2020, 07:25 AM
Rock river arms hunter I'm really starting to feel... 18-03-2020, 10:55 AM
Pommy Don't. This has been an... 18-03-2020, 11:26 AM
Steelisreal Pommy - I never realised you... 18-03-2020, 12:26 PM
Kaweka2506 Rock river arms hunter (heck... 18-03-2020, 09:24 PM
Rock river arms hunter Cheers for that ! Back in... 18-03-2020, 10:18 PM
Tikka7mm08 Man, I miss my Predator... 19-03-2020, 08:56 AM
rewa It sort-of has now! 19-03-2020, 10:22 AM
Max Headroom It's been an interesting... 18-03-2020, 10:16 PM
stevodog Till you get 6.5 and above 18-03-2020, 12:17 PM
Pommy You should try it some time :) 18-03-2020, 12:48 PM
jakewire Four hundred yards is still a... 18-03-2020, 09:32 PM
trooper90 Never this much talking about... 19-03-2020, 10:14 AM
rewa If you had only one calibre,... 19-03-2020, 10:34 AM
Sideshow Got any toilet paper?:XD: 19-03-2020, 11:53 AM
Micky Duck nah shelves are full of pooh... 19-03-2020, 02:30 PM
rewa Are you dating a fat girl ? 19-03-2020, 08:37 PM
csmiffy rewa you forgot the bookmark... 20-03-2020, 07:36 AM
grandpamac We need to remember that the... 21-03-2020, 02:06 PM
csmiffy 6.5 creedmore has a man bun 20-03-2020, 12:56 PM
Nickoli …. and herpes.... 20-03-2020, 01:23 PM
csmiffy @grandapamac you are right... 21-03-2020, 04:10 PM
grandpamac Greetings again, Regrettably... 22-03-2020, 11:15 AM
gregdudehunter 25/06 Decision. Righto you... 13-04-2020, 10:40 AM
257weatherby For god's sake sell it to... 13-04-2020, 12:31 PM
Micky Duck like you..........lol 13-04-2020, 12:34 PM
Micky Duck load 100grn in what you have... 13-04-2020, 10:50 AM
25 /08 IMP Have a look at the Blackjack... 13-04-2020, 10:55 AM
Husky1600 Bloody hell!...just when I... 13-04-2020, 12:01 PM
257weatherby .257 Roberts in a modern... 13-04-2020, 12:33 PM
tetawa +1 14-04-2020, 03:53 PM
csmiffy you read in the US stuff... 14-04-2020, 04:15 PM
gregdudehunter Sorry the photos are upside... 13-04-2020, 02:23 PM
257weatherby Load the 25/06 properly and... 13-04-2020, 07:37 PM
gregdudehunter 136118 Sent from my... 13-04-2020, 03:00 PM
gregdudehunter 136119 Sent from my... 13-04-2020, 03:02 PM
gregdudehunter 136120 Sent from my... 13-04-2020, 03:03 PM
Micky Duck SERIOUSLY dude you cant... 13-04-2020, 06:12 PM
gregdudehunter No mate I won’t be Will... 13-04-2020, 06:33 PM
Micky Duck is that a HP Savage????round... 13-04-2020, 06:41 PM
gregdudehunter That’s a poor mans Swift. ... 13-04-2020, 07:29 PM
Micky Duck thought it was too big n fat... 13-04-2020, 07:31 PM
gregdudehunter Thanks mate I appreciate your... 14-04-2020, 08:51 AM
Strummer A good read! My 25-06 seems... 05-04-2021, 11:37 AM
gimp Almost as good as a .223! 12-04-2021, 07:18 PM
Guest just like the 6.5 06 05-04-2021, 02:09 PM
grandpamac Greetings All, I am really... 13-04-2021, 02:35 PM
257weatherby Showing off how much you... 13-04-2021, 02:58 PM
Nickoli ....Please enlighten us,... 13-04-2021, 04:04 PM
257weatherby Bitecha bum, open your... 13-04-2021, 05:25 PM
257weatherby Righto, give me some basis... 13-04-2021, 09:52 PM
grandpamac Greetings 257 Weatherby and... 13-04-2021, 04:21 PM
Bos I was persuaded a while back... 13-04-2021, 05:07 PM
veitnamcam And thats why the PRC is so... 13-04-2021, 05:30 PM
25 /08 IMP The problem being the 6.5/06... 13-04-2021, 05:40 PM
257weatherby You made a definitive... 13-04-2021, 05:23 PM
Nickoli Not sure when prefacing a... 13-04-2021, 05:27 PM
Tahr :) After 18 pages it doesn't... 13-04-2021, 05:31 PM
grandpamac Greetings 257 Weatherby and... 14-04-2021, 12:25 PM
csmiffy Always wanted one but never... 14-04-2021, 01:15 PM
Tahr The government are likely to... 14-04-2021, 01:53 PM
Nickoli .... Tahr - are you alright... 14-04-2021, 02:06 PM
Tahr Hah, I’m sure some people... 14-04-2021, 02:15 PM
Nickoli ......Couldn't agree more -... 14-04-2021, 02:24 PM
Tahr Nah it’s a comment on the... 14-04-2021, 03:27 PM
gimp bullshit 14-04-2021, 05:19 PM
Tahr Nice. The younger generation... 14-04-2021, 05:26 PM
grandpamac Greetings All, Noticed an... 14-04-2021, 04:52 PM
Tahr A case’s head stamp has never... 14-04-2021, 05:29 PM
TeRei Such a wit. 23-06-2023, 10:13 PM
Rock river arms hunter I still can't believe this... 15-04-2021, 08:44 AM
Padox I cut my teeth on a 2506 and... 15-04-2021, 08:49 AM
Pushover Never shot one. Been told... 15-04-2021, 08:59 AM
Moa Hunter The single biggest historical... 15-04-2021, 09:34 AM
grandpamac Greetings All, To Rock river... 15-04-2021, 09:37 AM
Pushover Hi Mac, I have 2. Both well... 15-04-2021, 10:04 AM
grandpamac Greetings Pushover, Thanks... 15-04-2021, 10:23 AM
zimmer About a year ago I did load... 15-04-2021, 11:03 AM
csmiffy zimmer silly question, but... 15-04-2021, 11:31 AM
zimmer Mate has yet to try it on... 15-04-2021, 12:28 PM
Pushover Yeah, that would be a 10... 15-04-2021, 12:21 PM
grandpamac Greetings Pushover, By... 16-04-2021, 10:14 AM
Pushover Hi GPM, These twists are ... 16-04-2021, 11:20 AM
grandpamac Greetings Pushover, I have... 16-04-2021, 11:39 AM
Pushover Thanks GPM, ill keep that in... 16-04-2021, 12:40 PM
Puffin Pushover, what are your... 16-04-2021, 04:38 PM
Pushover Yeah, think the jbm calc said... 16-04-2021, 05:19 PM
Tikka7mm08 After 20 pages I've forgotten... 16-04-2021, 05:28 PM
Pushover After 20 pages I've forgotten... 16-04-2021, 06:23 PM
Finnwolf Is there such a thing as a... 16-04-2021, 06:44 PM
Rees but not worth the hassle with... 17-04-2021, 12:55 AM
25 /08 IMP Yip there sure is I had one... 17-04-2021, 08:37 AM
Spitfire After 21 pages I guess .25-06... 17-04-2021, 09:24 PM
Tikka7mm08 https://www.ballisticstudies.c... 16-04-2021, 06:45 PM
Basenjiboy I have a 25-08 built on a... 16-04-2021, 08:21 PM
Moa Hunter I think a 2508 AI would be... 17-04-2021, 12:28 AM
nor-west Nah 257AI........:thumbsup:... 17-04-2021, 01:56 AM
Moa Hunter I remember that the 250 AI... 17-04-2021, 11:48 PM
grandpamac Greetings Moa Hunter, The... 19-04-2021, 02:56 PM
Pushover I might be interested in... 17-04-2021, 08:19 AM
zimmer There ya go. Obviously some... 18-04-2021, 09:47 AM
Pushover Interesting numbers. Is it... 18-04-2021, 10:00 AM
Mathias Yep, I did that for years... 18-04-2021, 10:09 AM
zimmer True Ackley designs have a... 18-04-2021, 10:39 AM
Pushover Thanks for the experienced... 18-04-2021, 11:10 AM
trooper90 Bump because I can haha 23-06-2023, 05:32 PM
Puffin Ok, I'll take that bait:... 23-06-2023, 08:34 PM
25/08 IMP I reacon the 25-08 is better ... 23-06-2023, 09:18 PM
Bol Tackshin Why not? While we are on the... 23-06-2023, 09:13 PM
Puffin The problem with all the... 23-06-2023, 10:06 PM
trooper90 Yes I'm quite a fan of the... 23-06-2023, 11:24 PM
Micky Duck put it in a break open and it... 23-06-2023, 10:22 PM
25/08 IMP Mine was built on a Howa so a... 24-06-2023, 08:40 AM
csmiffy Always wanted one. Never got... 24-06-2023, 04:35 PM
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    25-06 why hasn't it achieved fame and success in New Zealand?

    I've been pondering this for a while and after nailing a big bodied 8 point red stag at 170m with a 117gr federal power shok load recently, I've been seriously asking myself and drilling my brain..... why isn't it more popular?

    Is it that its overshadowed by the .270,308/708 and its smaller rival the 243?or is it just that there's a lack of hunters whom use it and as such leading to its lack of familiarity?

    or is it that 25cal has never really caught on in New Zealand sadly like the 257 roberts?

    .25-06 Remington

    have a read of that and see what the Americans think of it....

    In my opinion,my dead serious opinion its without a doubt the best bang for your buck,minimal recoil at best,kills effeciently,flat shooting,good bullet selection,widely available and covers the species we have here with ease....

    Please go ahead and offer your thoughts
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    I'd never heard of it until my uncle put me onto it the other day… looks so perfect for my needs (one caliber to rule them all, from wallabies to stags) that I went out and ordered one.

    I am told that it really needs a 24" barrel to get the best out of it, which limits you to only a couple of models of rifle, and it is a little hard to find. Probably helps keep it in its niche.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock river arms hunter View Post
    why isn't it more popular?
    AAAAhhhhh says who? I know several guys with one, including myself. They were very popular about 15 years ago, just before the short mag fad. What fad are we in at the moment............ I would say 300 and 7 mm wildcats. Next fad, who knows?

    Machete don't text!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock river arms hunter View Post
    flat shooting,good bullet selection

    From my perspective, these are the problems:

    Flat shooting: Not actually a real thing.

    Good bullet selection: It doesn't.

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    I knew some people brought many 22-250 in North isaland. They thought this should do as they expected, but eventually it was not.

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    Agreed. It's trajectory is terrible, and shit selection of bullets.

    In saying that if all I had was a 25-06 I wouldn't sit around crying about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rock river arms hunter View Post
    I've been pondering this for a while and after nailing a big bodied 8 point red stag at 170m with a 117gr federal power shock load recently,
    Please go ahead and offer your thoughts
    I think lot of guys early in there hunting years often think the same with whatever caliber or rifle brand they start having success with. New Zealand game can comfortably be taken with a wide range of rifles, cal and bullets so what makes a 25-06 any better or worse than the others? nothing really its just one of many options that within its limitations works just like all the rest.As to why its not as popular well who really cares? I dont base my buying decisions on opinion polls I buy what I want.
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    Yes it does require a 24" barrel,you loose about 70fps for every inch but its the sort of calibre that wants to be reloaded for even though I don't, so Sako's,brownings?rugers and remingtons off the top of my head.... In saying that though the above mentioned all make quality rifles suitable for most needs these days so you can't go wrong....

    When you say terrible bullet selection are you saying that as in a comparison to 30 cal/7mm or is that a generalisation?
    And by a terrible trajectory also being compared against what?

    well yes I do have a bias towards it and I'm not going to Lie about it, I'm a firm believer in being confident in your ability to shoot a particular firearm accuratley thus bullet placement comes second nature.... It was the first larger centrefire that I could shoot confidently and as such love it for that alone....

    Cheers for the criticism's!

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    A lot of calibers are much of a muchness. I don't know much about the 25-06 admittedly, but that's an awful big case to fill with less powder than a 7mm-08 takes.

    You put it in the same category as .270,308/708 and saying it's smaller rival is the 243 when due to the bullet weight range (75-120g right?) and the unimpressive speeds they come out at I would think the .243 is a fairly apt comparison.

    The 308/7mm-08 shoot much much larger bullets, faster, out of a short action rifle. Plus they're common as anything. All of that added up would make me think there are much better choices for me out there.

    But each to their own, and if you're dropping animals with it, it's hard to argue with that aye?

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    Well thats the thing,it is commonly and regularly compared the the 308-708 and 270 by most people....

    the 3006 isn't super duper common down here but then again ask anyone whose shot game with it and generally speaking they can only say good things.....

    If anything being that it was developed using bullets designed for the .257 Roberts it is a magnum version in that sense..

    Yes commonality seems to be the big thing, 308-708,270,243,300wm,223 and 7mm rem mag seem to be the most popular centrefires and as such demand creates the market... its Just a shame it hasn't caught on but hey It drops em good and it doesnt destroy the meat on the animal from experience.....

    I think the commonality here is:simple things that work effectively... correct?

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    That's my effortpost for the week. Any subsequent responses will be sarcastic in nature.

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    If you do the clickety dialing thing it probably doesn't really matter a damn what cartridge you choose, within reason. People that don't do that will never know the difference. Just get a damn rifle and go hunting. These threads make my head hurt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beavis View Post
    If you do the clickety dialing thing it probably doesn't really matter a damn what cartridge you choose, within reason. People that don't do that will never know the difference. Just get a damn rifle and go hunting. These threads make my head hurt.
    So true. What makes me laugh is all the press going to 260, 6.5 PRC, Needmore and Grendell. While the 25-06 is run down as a yesterday calibre. 270 is the same. The only people that hate either are generally hair splitters and non hunters. Its all just advertising and people splitting hairs because to actually go for a hunt instead of talking about it would involve effort. One of the other good examples was people running down the 7x57 as underpowered then everyone jumping on the 7-08 bandwagon. Us blokes are the worst kind of retail addicts really. We are like kids in a toy shop. Just go hunting folks and if the distance is a bit far, here's a radical thought........... stalk closer!!!!

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    For my uses, and this is strictly for my uses:


    I see no reason for me ever to consider a .25 calibre. The highest BC (conventional design - not monolithic, commonly available), bullet available in .25 cal is the 115gr Berger VLD, with a G1BC of .466. Out of a .25-06, you can get maybe 3200fps from that, max.

    In a factory rifle, I can simply buy a 6.5x55 or .260, and shoot a 140gr Amax, or Berger, or 139gr Scenar, or 142gr SMK, or... well you get the picture - any number of bullets with a G1BC of around .6, at 2700-2900fps. There is a Norma factory load shooting a 130gr VLD with a BC of .57 or so, at 2950fps.

    The significantly higher BC of the 6.5mm bullet means that it catches up with the .25 cal bullet very quickly, in every metric: impact velocity, impact energy (more so, due to higher bullet weight), less wind drift, less drop, it also has more fractionally more frontal area. Ballistically it's no competition. "Flat shooting" is a much-used term that doesn't actually mean anything. At "normal hunting" ranges, there's no significant real-world difference in trajectory between most mainstream hunting calibres. At longer range, a slower, higher BC bullet will actually often have less drop anyway, not that it is relevant because drop is very easy to compensate for, with modern ballistics knowledge and rangefinders.

    In terms of recoil, the numbers are much the same. In fact, if you compare my 6.5x47 load (140gr Amax, 2790fps, 42gr of powder) to a random .25-06 load I pulled off the internet(115gr bullet, 3200fps, ~54gr of powder), you'll find that the .25-06 actually has slightly more recoil, and a slightly faster recoil impulse - which is what makes recoil unpleasant.

    And, to top it off, as you've noted the .25-06 isn't as efficient, and cutting the barrel short results in a larger loss of velocity. I'm getting that 2790fps from my 6.5x47 from a 20" barrel. You could cut a .25-06 barrel to 20" but you'd get a significant muzzle flash and a lot of noise, and you'd lose speed - not that the loss of speed would be real-world significant to normal "hunting" results, it would simply invalidate the purported reasoning behind selecting the .25-06 in the first place.


    In a custom rifle, a .243 properly loaded will outperform the best .25-06 load ballistically, and various 6.5mm and 7mm cartridges do too, however some of them have downsides not present with the moderate cased 6.5mm cartridges, such as increased recoil, shorter barrel life, less efficiency etc.


    For the "average" hunter, who doesn't understand ballistics, who doesn't shoot long range and doesn't fire enough rounds to care about things like efficiency, economy, barrel life etc, it's absolutely fine, although I have to question the wisdom of actively selecting it over pretty much anything else, if given the choice.
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    Ive never seen you type so much truth....
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