6.5 ELDM 147g any good for hunting?

Reloading for a 6.5 creedmoor ( hunting mostly) I have 140 partitions and 139 grain SST. Have been Fireforming new Lapua brass with 95g V-Max and a mid charge of 43g of Staball 6.5 and have got pressure signs and have come to the conclusion that my rifle just doesn't like the V max. I have read the the Forementioned ELDM is used successfuly at long range but would it be any good on lightish goats/deer in the close ranges ie 50-100m. They would also be used to fireform new brass, just thought if it's shooting in a straight line why not??

Nothing better.

Eet weel keel!

Work amazing out to 800y for me (6.5/06ai) devastating at short range, wrecks a bit of meat I must admit. Neck shoot and you have no problem.

Yes. Prefer the eld-m over the eld-x for hunting

My rifle shoots eldx and 147 eldm at the same POI and both work well, in my creedmore


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6.5 147gr eldm worked on these at 80 and 120 yds from a x57.

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Tbf, that's probably not a very good powder to use for the V-Max. Bit too slow burning for 95gr pills. Ball powders can be very dirty and erratic with light loads under them.

I bet if you tried some AR2208, they'd shoot better.

Yeah, I was trying to use up Spare powder really. I have IMR43-50 Reloader 16 and Ramshot hunter in the draw

Anyone tried the 140eldm on animals? That's my next peojectile I want to try in my.260

No but I used the 140gr Amax for years - the ELDM is constructed identically, simply a different form factor, and it was terrific



I have used few bullets for my personal hunting for the last 14 years other than :
- 140gr Amax from 6.5x47, 6.5x55, .260
- 147gr ELDM from .260
- 80gr ELDM from .223


All have worked tremendously well - my future use in a future cartridge will also be an ELDM (assuming it shoots acceptable precision)f


Of course a range of other bullets from other cartridges for other uses where I am not selecting or paying and they also generally work reasonably well.

I use 147 in 260. Works a charm from point blank to 600 yards.

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Originally Posted by Ginga

I use 147 in 260. Works a charm from point blank to 600 yards.

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What sort of speeds are you getting from the 147 in 260?
I am currently getting upto about 2750fps with 143 eldx in a 20 inch barrel

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Originally Posted by Nick.m

What sort of speeds are you getting from the 147 in 260?
I am currently getting upto about 2750fps with 143 eldx in a 20 inch barrel

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I load 143 and 147 in a few .260 and creedmore.
.260 18" at 2816fps and 20" 2850fps all using Hodgdon Superproformance powder

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Never had any issues with the 140gr ELDM

I'm using the 140ELDM in my Creedmoor. It seems a little more user friendly to load for and with better velocities than the 143 ELDX. The ELDM also shoots tighter groups. Terminal performance on Deer is very good. At least as good as the ELDX, probably better, especially at longer ranges, they may be a little too explosive on larger animals at short range. I think if I was bush hunting I would choose another projectile.

Litz has a pretty good body of work on why the 147 ELDM is not worth pursuing for 500m+ shooting, BC inconsistency.

However, the 140 ELDM is much better and favoured over the 147 in PRS/NRL.

Personally don't bother with anything but the 7mm ELDM's (162 in the '08 and 180's in the RM) at the moment.

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Litz has a pretty good body of work on why the 147 ELDM is not worth pursuing for 500m+ shooting, BC inconsistency.

However, the 140 ELDM is much better and favoured over the 147 in PRS/NRL.

Personally don't bother with anything but the 7mm ELDM's (162 in the '08 and 180's in the RM) at the moment.

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While I tremendously respect Bryan Litz, I don't know if I've seen evidence that the 147gr is quite so simple to write off in practical terms -

For example - https://xlrindustries.com/blogs/xlr-...m-bc-variation


who knows what is really going on?

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I started using ELDMs in my 6.5PRC cause the 143 ELDx's were shooting super slow and in 1.5MOA groups. The 147ELDm's were 150fps faster out of my rifle (same speed stated on the box), heavier, and shoot 0.5MOA.

I found that animals shot with ELDx's would always run a wee way before realizing they were dead, whereas I've pretty much only had bang flops or they have only gone <5m with the ELDMs. I guess the extra energy is pretty significant.

So far I have got large exit wounds on all animals between 300yds - 500yds away even with steep quartering shots requiring 50cm+ penetration to get through to the other side.

The only bullet I have actually recovered was yesterday on a red spiker from 20-30yds away. He just appeared out of no where! It was very quartering and entered through one of the last rib bones and I found the bullet in the skin on opposite side after blowing through the shoulder plate. As you can see from the photo, it mushroomed pretty perfectly at 2750fps, and still got about about 60cm of penetration after landing square on a bone.

Very good. Shot three reds in a river valley just on dusk a few months ago. Around 290m for the first two and 120m for the last one.

First one was an onside front of shoulder shot, quartering slightly towards. Exit slightly behind off side shoulder. Dropped on the spot.
Exit.
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Second was a straight lung shot, just behind shoulder entry, just in front of diaphragm exit. Animal had run after the shot of the first deer, so I was tracking in scope and very quickly left off a shot when it paused. Entry was too far back for my liking. Ran 40m, left a blood trail a metre wide that I followed at a brisk walk in the dark - you can see the blood around the animal the whole trail was like this. So, good terminal effect in less than perfect shot placement (if you're wanting to drop and animal on the spot, it was an adequate killing shot). Lungs were destroyed.
Entry side.
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Exit side.
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Third I don't have a photo of, my partner sorted the butchering on that one while I did the other two on the other side of the river. The animal had run towards my position and stopped at 120m standing straight on. I shot it in the base of the neck. Wouldn't have mattered what projectile I used, straight down.

A fourth and fifth deer were shot with the same load/rifle a few days later by a friend's son, his first two deer. 190m, shoulder shot dropped on the spot. Second deer shot was too far back and required a finisher upon approach.

So with adequate shot placement the ELD-M 147gn projectiles are very effective. That being said on the same trip three deer were shot with .270win 130gn Hornady interlocks from 150-200m, just as effective projectile performance.

Yes, 147 eld m/ 140 amax/ 123 amax has been the bullet of choice most of my years. Recently also Barnes 120gr TTSX where there is a lead free requirement.

The 123gr can be a little too violent if V0 is >870'ish msec. It was great @ V0 750 msec and I use it in my kipplauf @ 850 msec. Very pleased.

V0 750-850 has worked good for all these bullets, at V0 900'ish msec I found them problematic in terms of excessive carcass damage.