Does anyone have a link to the targets off Norway's video they can throw my way?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dreamer
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Does anyone have a link to the targets off Norway's video they can throw my way?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dreamer
6.5prc built by greg @100m ( thanks greg!!) Attachment 136150
Creating a load for my .308 browning xbolt. Attachment 136151 had 6 loads all around the same group like this @ 100m.
My best day from the 2020 Nelson Champs at Westport
3 ranges shot, 300 yards, 700 yards twice.
Group sizes 0.9, 0.9 1.0 MOA respectively.
It's a good day when you keep all the sighting shots.
The deleted shot on my 3rd target was a crossfire from another shooter.
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The velocities at 700 look very fast. What load?
My standard FTR load - Lapua Palma Cases, 45.0 gr 2208 with 185 gr Berger Hybrids.Quote:
Originally Posted by Woody
Barnard 'P' Action, 32" 1:10 True-Flite barrel.
You get a little more velocity out of the longer barrel.
strokes for folks........bush hobbits dont need interbalistic misiles for sub 50 yard shots
Most target rifles have 30" or 32" barrelsQuote:
Originally Posted by mimms2
I can still make the 8.25 kg weight limit (includes rifle, scope, bipod, rain cover) with the 32".
Some great shooting and discussion here.
Perhaps hitting a 1 MOA dot with a single cold bore shot is more relevant to most of us?
To prove consistency, hit it again with a single shot on a different day, or with a completely cold bore in whatever condition you like your bore (fouled, clean of carbon, clean of carbon and copper, whatever).
Lots of very impressive groups, but most aren’t bang on target (load dev accepted).
I’m not being at all critical - I enjoy shooting for small group sizes too.
N150, 178g eldx, standard xbolt but chopped to 15inch, trigger spring, dpt magnum supressor. That lying on the dirt with a bipod and a hoodie as a rear bag.
Five shot 1/2 moa group shot today at 200m wth my .308 win shultz and larsen classic dl.
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Would have been tighter except for my own slight shakes. Standard jaktmatch bbl. 155hbc @2800 fps. Leupold vx3 4.5-14*40 scope.
That's how I find my center. I get out maybe once a week and put a couple of cold shots into a target at 600 yards. The accumulated data gives me about 1moa with my 284.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spitfire
Generally the two shot groups are way tighter than that but elevation variation from night to night pushes it out to moa, but more than happy with that.
3 shot groups test the load and rifle. 5 shot groups test the shooter. Most shooters will struggle to put up a good 5 shot group with a heavy recoiling gun, even suppressed. Its all about shoulder pressure, and any subtle difference will throw a shot out of the group.
Agree for my shooting anyway, if I had more patience/time it would be single shots...but two with a few minutes wait time keeps the gun cold and keeps my shooting at its sharpest (which isn't all that flash)Quote:
Originally Posted by Taupohunter
3 shots 5 shots 6 shots . ya have it all wrong unless your target shooting . It's the FIRST shot that counts
unless your doing control and even then if you can put it in the bull every time first time thats it .
Not for the Gimp Challenge it ain't sorry. For what is now a forum institution, it is 5x 5-shot groups, as per the OP - no alterations permitted. Keeps the playing field level. So while posting a single-hole 3-shot group (or multiple 3-shot groups) is fine, and you could've been a contender, you aren't unless you play by the rules. That's why it's the hunting AND shooting forum. Looking forward to the HillBillyHunter's Single-Shot Cold-Bore Challenge though. I'll be in for that.
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Boring old tikka Rem mag.
First group at 100yards before zeroing.
Second group at 506y with no allowance for windage.
Plenty good for a hunting rifle.
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I didn't know of this challenge till a mate told me last night so i dont have any 5 shot group pics, i have a 10 shot i did yesterday just off the bipod, i think i may have messed up the 10th shot as it went high right opening it up to a 1" group. All shot at 100 yards, all one string with no cooling down etc. Rifle is a standard Sauer 100, ammo is 223 fiocci 55gr vmax.
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The rifle with the 10 shot lucky 13 mag
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10 shots off the bipod.
Its amazing that people still cant or wont read. Read the op's post.
Blair, I don't think the problem is so much with people not being able to read... it is that they cant actually shoot the challenge with "postable" results. :P:DQuote:
Originally Posted by blair993
lol. yeah maybe. but 5 shot groups dont matter "in the real world" only the first shot.
I have got too old to care about tiny groups. Practical accuracy and consistency is where its at for me now. I spend more time ensuring my technique is where it should be than what my rifles can do. Fundamentals are the basis for all types of shooting and if you have them to a high standard, mistakes are less likely.
If I roll my ammo correctly I know my hunting rifles can shoot better than I can, so thats all that interests me these days.
I did get all excited when I first shot my Sig P320 9mm at 25, freestyle, not off a ransom rest.(With a dot) I put 10 rnds into 1.5 inches with 2 separate clusters. I have yet to replicate that even now that I am more familiar with the gun. Therefore a definite fluke.[emoji16] But its safe to say my pistol is now, a 6 MOA gun[emoji16]
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Ah yeah just saw you meant to do 5 groups lol, ill have a crack next time im out, you right i didn't read the OP post lol.
With the help of OBT. Barnes was the second load I tested and Nosler the 3rd load I tested. Large calibers don’t always need to be accurate, but they can be.
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Here's some targets from my 22lr endeavors but they are only shot @ 50m if that counts
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I've got a fck ton more @ 50m where I've had 1 or 2 fliers spoil it and a handful @ 100m that are pretty close as well
Some good shooting guys. Just realized this thread started 8yrs ago. Certainly has longevity.
Spend the morning working up some new match loads with some new bullets for the desert tech bullpup in 6.5x47 Lapua.
I have only been using the barrel for hunting but decided to get back into a bit of club shooting so need a 1000y target worthy load.
Serious shortage of components out there at the mo so my choice of projectiles was decided by the current availability.
The Berger 130gr OTM Hybrid VLDs and the new 130gr Sierra Hybrid Match King is showing promise with sub .5 MOA 5 round groups at 100yds but Ill spend the day fine tuning the loads to get it closer to its .2-.3 MOA groups it can achieve with lower BC hunting bullets.
Might have another crack with the 130gr ELDMs too I tested about a year ago.
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Aha, just about to get my old 6 BR and my 6.5x47L up and running again.
6mm BR hasn't been fired since 2012, the 6.5x47L since 2017.
In 2017 I tried some loads using 2208, 130 gr Bergers. The results weren't great and I lost interest, instead of persevering.
Normal range load was 130 gr Bergers (pointed) and Reloder powder.
I still have a reasonable amount of Reloder left but wanted to use 2208 due to it being less temp sensitive.
I used to get cracker groups with the 130 gr Bergers and also 123 gr Scenars. Scenars a bit light though and didn't give me much ballistical advantage over using my 6 BR.
@Wingman what sort of velocities are you getting?
Can run up to 2900fps with the 130gr class and RL16 in a 24" Trueflite. Backing them off to about 2750- 2800 tomorrow to test a lower node with 2208. Had a brain fart this morning and used my 123gr load data for the 130gr so the 2208 groups above were way too hot at 2880fps
These Hybrid Bergers are suposed to be less jump sensitive so should find a load pretty quickly tomorrow.
I dragged the 6mm dasher out last weekend for the first time in ages and gave it a run at 1000yds too..
Well that took longer than I hoped.. got a couple of usable loads. The Berger Hybrid Tactical bullets seemed to want to be on the lands or the groups were plagued with flyers.
Finished up with this one and a 4fps ES with 3 duplicate readings of 2818fps.
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The Sierra match kings were much easier to tune and run at 2880fps with a higher BC than the Bergers so will probably sway that way once the Bergers are used up.
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This has not been a fussy barrel but it definitely seems to favour the 130gr over the 140gr
Well this doesn't meet the original poster's requirements - but most of the post in this discussion don't.
Had to go to the range to retest a scope's zero.
Had some old rounds (loaded 2016 & 2017) for another rifle, same calibre different rifle.
155 gr Lapua Scenars in Lapua Palma cases.
At 100 yards 10 shots in a 1 inch square. Close enough.
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Here are 10 - 5 shot groups, stacked on top of each other at 100m...50 rounds through my .223ai whilst forming brass.
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I was forming brass and wasn’t shooting for accuracy, but it still confirms that the barrel has some potential and doesn’t shift zero as it warms up.
Of course there had to be that 1 bullet that wouldn’t conform!
Here are a couple of 3 shot groups from my 338 Lapua Improved at 200m, this barrel shot pretty well!
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And here’s another 3 shot group from the same 338, cold bore on a 36” x 36” plate at 2003m just to prove that the last 3 shot groups weren’t a fluke. [emoji846]
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Ultimately accuracy is subjective and whether a rifle is accurate enough is something only the owner of that rifle can decide on.
@Matt2308 not bad shooting to break the world record. only for the yanks to change the rules.
Yeh that was unfortunate.Quote:
Originally Posted by blair993
But all good, I broke my personal record and now I just have to do it again officially.
Thats true. Sometimes i get bughole groups but the position on the target isn't where i know the wind should have put it. Meaning i replicated a shitty shooting position a few times...Quote:
Originally Posted by R93
A good repeatable technique seems to require constant practice to maintain eh
And now, many years later all I do is shoot at paper or steel targets..
Good luck figuring out which hole goes with which dot with my shooting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spanners
I fully appreciate the time, money and understanding that went into those 3 shot groups. Nicely done.
Here are a couple of my best ever milsurp groups so far. Both at 100m with military open sights. First is a 4 shot group with a k31 swiss rifle (7.5x55) I was trying an accurising process on the swiss rifles website where you torque the action screws to “tune” your rifle. Turns out it works extremely well! Its most definitely a 3 shot group, the 4th shot either went exactly through the other 3 holes or completely off the target entirely (seems unlikely).
Second is a longbranch No. 4 .303 with the best handload combination I could find on the day. The piece of bark is 1”. Possibly a shade over 1 MOA but I was still pretty amazed none the less.
The half circle shape is great for open sight shooting consistency. Doubt I could manage it with any other target type
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