Thread: Ammo prices

John McAdam Big Game Hunting .
Prices for ammunition are falling over all lines ammo

If that's happening we should also see Primer prices falling .....

Wonder how long it'll take to trickle down to NZ.

I'm guessing never.

Originally Posted by Beetroot

Wonder how long it'll take to trickle down to NZ.

I'm guessing never.

Given that GC and h&f as the primary importer control the market that’s a correct assumption ��

Originally Posted by omark

Given that GC and h&f as the primary importer control the market that’s a correct assumption ��

See Belmont are doing powder (just repacked ADI?) and bullets are not that hard to make in smaller cals (so he says from a bit of research and not buying any super expensive bullet swaging gear).

Surplus 223 and 308 brass and ammo will be around, big issue is primers.

A UK ammo assembler just buys primed 308/7.62x51 brass from Magtech/CBC of Brazil, speeds up the process greatly and comes already packed in ammo cans, think they don't need sizing either, just load up and go. Same must be available in 223/5.56. Won't win any BR comps with that stuff but quantity has a quality of it's own as some bloke said...

Quite a bit of info on reloading primers on YouTube.

Originally Posted by 7mmwsm

Quite a bit of info on reloading primers on YouTube.

Originally Posted by caberslash

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Refine your search. Perhaps add "sucessful"

Price gouging.....

I know of 1 large store that is putting over 80% markup on certain ammo just because they can. People still buying it cause the need it so the retail outlet is creaming it.
The distributor can't do anything apart from recommend a rrp. And they're certainly not putting a markup like that on their product.

Originally Posted by omark

Given that GC and h&f as the primary importer control the market that’s a correct assumption ��

HF don't import. GC does. But there are at least 5 ammo importers that I know of. Most are wholesale only though so don't sell to Joe public.
The 2 big chain stores however do buy from these distributors, and set their own retail prices

Originally Posted by cambo

HF don't import. GC does. But there are at least 5 ammo importers that I know of. Most are wholesale only though so don't sell to Joe public.

The 2 big chain stores however do buy from these distributors, and set their own retail prices

The question is for how long will the likes of Pains and NZ ammunition be around. The big guys also apply pressure . for example look what happened to Aoraki when they imported the PMC ammo and the suppliers then got leaned on. Make no mistake that GC & F&G are only interested in selling packets of loaded ammo at $5 a round. Not saying its crap ammo and that's fine if you are only shooting 2 boxes a year but it doesn't cater for a big part of the market.

The concern should be the lack of components for reloaders and there is not really anyone championing this market at the moment and importing directly. You cant for example buy 223 or .308 projectiles in bulk like you can in the USA from the likes of Hornady.

Originally Posted by omark

The question is for how long will the likes of Pains and NZ ammunition be around. The big guys also apply pressure . for example look what happened to Aoraki when they imported the PMC ammo and the suppliers then got leaned on. Make no mistake that GC & F&G are only interested in selling packets of loaded ammo at $5 a round. Not saying its crap ammo and that's fine if you are only shooting 2 boxes a year but it doesn't cater for a big part of the market.

The concern should be the lack of components for reloaders and there is not really anyone championing this market at the moment and importing directly. You cant for example buy 223 or .308 projectiles in bulk like you can in the USA from the likes of Hornady.

Hornady do do bulk pacs in z
147eldm come in 2000 pks if you ask.
.224 55grain soft points can come in 6000pks as well as various others and in stock.

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Originally Posted by 7mmwsm

Refine your search. Perhaps add "sucessful"

Or remove intelligence.

Even if you found a way to somehow replicate the 'best'/'match grade' primers from stuff you get over the counter (which you can't, unless you have been watching too much Breaking Bad), the time/effort/money investment would probably work out at more than 10 USD per shot for the first thousand (unless you consider time and effort to be 'free'- it isn't).

Scraping some strike anywhere match heads or cap gun fluff into a mixture which is then poured out onto a spent primer cup that you have knocked flat again, annealed , and reshaped the anvil over, just to make a 'BANG' isn't success in my book.

Better take up archery and bowhunting instead.

Seen the Oz mob are importing large rifle primers from India that are supposedly surplus from a US Arsenal contract?

Reports on FB reloading groups are interesting, some say excellent, some say crap.

Keep in mind that nations like Korea and the Philippines have government arsenals which produce ammunition from start to finish.

There will always be a 'surplus' market when poorly paid government employees or the armed forces are involved.

Originally Posted by andyanimal31

Hornady do do bulk pacs in z
147eldm come in 2000 pks if you ask.
.224 55grain soft points can come in 6000pks as well as various others and in stock.

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They do that here inOZ to but get the calculator out and hay presto it's the same bloody price as buying it in 100 count box's the thieving pr I cks