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Prices for ammunition are falling over all lines ammo
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John McAdam Big Game Hunting .
Prices for ammunition are falling over all lines ammo
If that's happening we should also see Primer prices falling .....
Wonder how long it'll take to trickle down to NZ.
I'm guessing never.
Given that GC and h&f as the primary importer control the market that’s a correct assumption ��Quote:
Originally Posted by Beetroot
See Belmont are doing powder (just repacked ADI?) and bullets are not that hard to make in smaller cals (so he says from a bit of research and not buying any super expensive bullet swaging gear).Quote:
Originally Posted by omark
Surplus 223 and 308 brass and ammo will be around, big issue is primers.
A UK ammo assembler just buys primed 308/7.62x51 brass from Magtech/CBC of Brazil, speeds up the process greatly and comes already packed in ammo cans, think they don't need sizing either, just load up and go. Same must be available in 223/5.56. Won't win any BR comps with that stuff but quantity has a quality of it's own as some bloke said... :ORLY: :wtfsmilie:
Quite a bit of info on reloading primers on YouTube.
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Originally Posted by 7mmwsm
Refine your search. Perhaps add "sucessful"Quote:
Originally Posted by caberslash
Price gouging.....
I know of 1 large store that is putting over 80% markup on certain ammo just because they can. People still buying it cause the need it so the retail outlet is creaming it.
The distributor can't do anything apart from recommend a rrp. And they're certainly not putting a markup like that on their product.
HF don't import. GC does. But there are at least 5 ammo importers that I know of. Most are wholesale only though so don't sell to Joe public.Quote:
Originally Posted by omark
The 2 big chain stores however do buy from these distributors, and set their own retail prices
The question is for how long will the likes of Pains and NZ ammunition be around. The big guys also apply pressure . for example look what happened to Aoraki when they imported the PMC ammo and the suppliers then got leaned on. Make no mistake that GC & F&G are only interested in selling packets of loaded ammo at $5 a round. Not saying its crap ammo and that's fine if you are only shooting 2 boxes a year but it doesn't cater for a big part of the market.Quote:
Originally Posted by cambo
The concern should be the lack of components for reloaders and there is not really anyone championing this market at the moment and importing directly. You cant for example buy 223 or .308 projectiles in bulk like you can in the USA from the likes of Hornady.
Hornady do do bulk pacs in zQuote:
Originally Posted by omark
147eldm come in 2000 pks if you ask.
.224 55grain soft points can come in 6000pks as well as various others and in stock.
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Or remove intelligence.Quote:
Originally Posted by 7mmwsm
Even if you found a way to somehow replicate the 'best'/'match grade' primers from stuff you get over the counter (which you can't, unless you have been watching too much Breaking Bad), the time/effort/money investment would probably work out at more than 10 USD per shot for the first thousand (unless you consider time and effort to be 'free'- it isn't).
Scraping some strike anywhere match heads or cap gun fluff into a mixture which is then poured out onto a spent primer cup that you have knocked flat again, annealed , and reshaped the anvil over, just to make a 'BANG' isn't success in my book.
Better take up archery and bowhunting instead.
Seen the Oz mob are importing large rifle primers from India that are supposedly surplus from a US Arsenal contract?
Reports on FB reloading groups are interesting, some say excellent, some say crap.
Keep in mind that nations like Korea and the Philippines have government arsenals which produce ammunition from start to finish.
There will always be a 'surplus' market when poorly paid government employees or the armed forces are involved.
They do that here inOZ to but get the calculator out and hay presto it's the same bloody price as buying it in 100 count box's the thieving pr I cksQuote:
Originally Posted by andyanimal31
Yes archery may be your best option.Quote:
Originally Posted by caberslash
Or knitting perhaps.
Watching those bow shooters on tv at the games last night.Very good out at 60yds? or so.Some shots right on the bull eyes.
They will shoot everyday,fifty to hundred arrows just to maintain muscle memory etc.it is a skill set that takes a LOT of ongoing efforts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trout
I had a bow hunter recently who was shooting beer cans at ninety yards consistently.
bow definetly not my cup of tea - I shall make damn sure I have bored sighted really well before doing a check zero to conserve my stocks of centerfire and practice will be .22 rimfire - but really when one looks at a 2-3 days meat trip away with petrol food a few beers ammo is cheapest part
Flintlock is the way around primer, powder and projectile shortages Barry.
if I am careful I have enough to see me out - only shoot odd goats for a curry so not wasting any there - way way to stingy for flint lock just cant be bothered with all the stuffing around - I go out to bring meat home - in saying that a good happy with something like a Remington navy blackpowder revolver yeah had the odd go very enjoyable
