Thread: B Cat Holder Wanted!!

Having a look back now, I originally interpreted it as wanting to learn to shoot properly and to the best of your ability rather than to simply pass a test.
There is a heap of info and help presented here in more than one form, but end of the day it's up to the individual to decide what they want to do and achieve.

I shot not bad for 2 yrs and 10k rd's... 5 mins of elbow work with someone that actually knew what they were doing instructor wise and my groups halved and speed almost doubled.


I personally scoff when someone mentions guns and military training..
Because you get to qualify a couple times a year and use a gun as part of your job ans wear camo and march around 350days a year or issue speeding tickets doesn't mean they have any actual skills or correct training
those involved usually have little to no actual skills and techniques that have been developed on the last 70+ odd yrs
Many procedures, postures and grips predate WW2.
I'm not going to try and justify my comments other than i have experienced it to a certain extent and if you WANT to shoot better and spend the time researching, reading and practicing and/or getting training from someone that has some idea, you will soon find out for yourself, the easy way of the hard way.

Originally Posted by Spanners

Having a look back now, I originally interpreted it as wanting to learn to shoot properly and to the best of your ability rather than to simply pass a test.
There is a heap of info and help presented here in more than one form, but end of the day it's up to the individual to decide what they want to do and achieve.

I shot not bad for 2 yrs and 10k rd's... 5 mins of elbow work with someone that actually knew what they were doing instructor wise and my groups halved and speed almost doubled.


I personally scoff when someone mentions guns and military training..
Because you get to qualify a couple times a year and use a gun as part of your job ans wear camo and march around 350days a year or issue speeding tickets doesn't mean they have any actual skills or correct training
those involved usually have little to no actual skills and techniques that have been developed on the last 70+ odd yrs
Many procedures, postures and grips predate WW2.
I'm not going to try and justify my comments other than i have experienced it to a certain extent and if you WANT to shoot better and spend the time researching, reading and practicing and/or getting training from someone that has some idea, you will soon find out for yourself, the easy way of the hard way.

You are obviously after a bite but if thats your honest opinion ref the military, your ignorance is truely astounding. :roll

Originally Posted by R93

You are obviously after a bite but if thats your honest opinion ref the military, your ignorance is truely astounding. :roll

It wasn't for a bite.
There is a big difference to studying for a test and learning the content , rather than being given the answers the day before hand.

So basically if you have anything to do with the armed forces you are automatically a pro right??
This is the attitude I disagree with.
So many times we have army both current and past and police turn up to shoot with the attitude 'I'm in the army or police - I know what I'm doing' and proceed to grip the pistol like its their 1st time picking it up and generally shoot like shit. 'This is the way we are taught'
Doesn't mean its right or current and can't be improved but you hit a brick wall that goes up 'I'm in the armed forces, therefore I know'
The taught grip is 100yrs old.. For a gun 100yrs old that was out of date before WW2

If you can't seem room to improve and want to maintain the army or police knows best mentality then whatever floats your boat