Thread: COLFO ?

Just out of interest, can someone enlighten me to why I pay a Colfo sub & what sort of return I'm getting especially over the whole FA reform of the last few months ?


To me the licensed, sensible & responsible firearms owners of NZ need a decent voice that is media & PA savvy, something we seem to be sadly lacking in my opinion at the moment.

what do you suggest?

@Philipo. Havent you been paying attention mate. COLFO have been doing a brilliant job representing us.

Originally Posted by Philipo

Just out of interest, can someone enlighten me to why I pay a Colfo sub & what sort of return I'm getting especially over the whole FA reform of the last few months ?

To me the licensed, sensible & responsible firearms owners of NZ need a decent voice that is media & PA savvy, something we seem to be sadly lacking in my opinion at the moment.

Your post summarises well what most feel about the past five months: frustration, biting our tongues, and is it really helping? Fair question.

We're not going to get our old firearms laws back, no matter who represents us, that is not meant as an excuse, just reality, better just make peace with that.

COLFO is now continuously putting press releases and good information out there to press and politicians, it is all sensible stuff, and if it does not get through nothing will. No accident that more journalists are finally doing their job to challenge the official narrative. And not surprising that Hera Cook and Co are now attacking COLFO's credibility - questioning if gun owners really are as angry as COLFO claims they are. An organisation representing 40,000 members (and potentially 250,000) is big in NZ terms and the gentle giant has now stood up and cranks its relentless and accurate information machine which is picking up speed.

The chickens WILL come home to roost.

"When you're taking flak, it means you're over the target".

As Cordite said; if COLFO were to be easily ignored, they would be being ignored. Clearly their moderate and reasonable approach is increasingly worrying the guncontrollers.

I've donated to COLFO before the present collection of reeking turds hit the rotational air impeller, and more since, because they are, again IMO, our best hope for a unifying, 'umbrella' approach that can help all LFAOs.

I do not think they can succeed* because the last few months have taught us (well, those of us who did not already believe it) that as long as some 'other' gun owner is more directly affected, vilified and disadvantaged, the "I'm happy that they're not coming for me" sector keeps a low profile and their hands out of their pockets.

As The Only Great Winston (Churchill) said:



* Which is absolutely no reason not to try. Plus, "the horse may learn to sing". Plus, I've been wrong on yeah many occasions :-)

I think that the COLFO Fair and Reasonable campaign is as good an initiative as any in response to what has happened. Philipo your continued support is important. They are now getting financial support from corners that were previously not very supportive and that momentum is increasing their ability to act in our interests.

I agree with Cordite that there will not be a return to the way it was but I am optimistic about the prospect of some degree of good sense walk back.

Originally Posted by Rushy

...there will not be a return to the way it was but I am optimistic about the prospect of some degree of good sense walk back.

Yes, why are we not allowed to retain some optimism? If my COLFO donations help put the brakes on, that is fine, if the waggon moves a bit backwards... ecstasy!

They are indeed doing a lot.
I think we do need another front though. there is a storm brewing.....

Originally Posted by 40mm

I think we do need another front though. there is a storm brewing.....

I agree, another big-hitter to compliment COLFLO is definitely needed to help divide and conquer. Federated Farmers and NZDA are two obvious starters but there are others.

Seems to me there's FARKALL unity and agreement amongst LFAO's ? We're doomed right there, hence the law makers will just be telling us whats gonna happen. No 'democracy', no choice .... as per normal throuhout our kiwi history. No surprises.

Even if we all gave COLFO $100 each, would it change any outcomes for us ?

Originally Posted by LRP

Seems to me there's FARKALL unity and agreement amongst LFAO's ? ?

And this is the reason why

Originally Posted by LRP

Seems to me there's FARKALL unity and agreement amongst LFAO's ? We're doomed right there, hence the law makers will just be telling us whats gonna happen. No 'democracy', no choice .... as per normal throuhout our kiwi history. No surprises.

Even if we all gave COLFO $100 each, would it change any outcomes for us ?

I don’t know but in my books it’s worth trying, if you don’t you’ll be forever wondering...

Originally Posted by muzza

Now - I think they are getting more traction , the legal actions they are looking at are a step in the right direction , and we are seeing them more visible.

Send lawyers, guns and money eh?
Pay my lawyer, he wanted a third yacht for this season.

Originally Posted by 40mm

They are indeed doing a lot.
I think we do need another front though. there is a storm brewing.....

Originally Posted by mimms

Yes, poor bastards, every 7.5 million of them, men, women, children, and of course the odd binary undecided.

I'd be shit scared of any extradition to Chinese judicial state serving system. Not a "justice system" and charges can be made up in the typing pool, possibly involving a competition for a pack of cigarettes.

Especially as I have a rare-ish tissue type.

Originally Posted by mimms

Send lawyers, guns and money eh?
Pay my lawyer, he wanted a third yacht for this season.

Whats that march about?
Wish we could do that here...