Cracked it

In my first season of FTR competition I've finally managed to score my first "60" point score in competition at the Canterbury Autumn competition at the Malvern Range last weekend. At 500 yards 60.03 out of 60.10. It was a great day for shooting, warm/hot, almost no wind.

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For those unfamiliar with the E-Target screen the squares are 1 MOA ~ 5" at 500 yards.
The 'V' or 6 ring is about 1 MOA in diameter, the 'X' ring in the centre is about 0.5 MOA.
The speed shown is the estimated velocity of the projectile across the target calculated by the target sensors.

Rifle is a 308 Barnard action with 32" True-Flite barrel on a custom laminated stock.
Sinclair bipod with Bigfoot rear bag, Nightforce scope.
155gr Lapua Scenar projectiles in Lapua Palma cases (small rifle primer) with 45.0gr ADI2208.

Good stuff fella. Nice shooting.[emoji106]
I remember shooting my first clean round in skeet. It was a buzz. Personal goals just increased from there and it was what drove me to improve, and in turn you become competitive.

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What's the red dot with the diagonal X through it?

Well Done Cyclops, that's great shooting


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Originally Posted by Tommy

What's the red dot with the diagonal X through it?

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Duh nevermind, got it, it's the first hit selected.

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Duh nevermind, got it, it's the first hit selected.

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It's the sighter ie last shot fired

Buggered if I understand any of the above.

The red dot is always the last shot fired, to distinguish it from the older shots. If Cyclops had fired a further shot the new shot would have been indicated by a red dot and the previous shot changed colour from a red dot to a light grey dot like all its mates.
Nice shoot @Cyclops

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Originally Posted by Rushy

Buggered if I understand any of the above.

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The picture is a screensnap of the electronic target screen.
Instead of having manually marked targets there are 5 calibrated sensors on each target that report via software and hardware to show where each shot fired hit and the score for that hit. The last shot is highlighted in red and its distance from the calibrated centre is displayed. The "older" shots are displayed in grey.

I shot a 10 shot sequence - converting my two sighting shots into scoring shots.
All shots in within the 'V' or '6' ring, three in the inner 'X' ring with scores 6.1

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Originally Posted by Cyclops

The picture is a screensnap of the electronic target screen.
Instead of having manually marked targets there are 5 calibrated sensors on each target that report via software and hardware to show where each shot fired hit and the score for that hit. The last shot is highlighted in red and its distance from the calibrated centre is displayed. The "older" shots are displayed in grey.

I shot a 10 shot sequence - converting my two sighting shots into scoring shots.
All shots in within the 'V' or '6' ring, three in the inner 'X' ring with scores 6.1

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Thanks a heap for trying to explain it to me Cyclops but I still don't get it. Not seeing any V or 6, not seeing any X. Not your fault. Just the son of a simple woodsman. It doesn't matter.

very nice, look forward to the day that I'll ever shoot that score.

You have to know a wee bit of the history of NRA shooting to make full sense of it.

Traditionally, fullbore (off-the-shoulder slingshooters using aperture sights) were scored between 2-5 points with 5 being a "bull". Next level of refinement was adding an inner bull, informally called a "centre" or "V". These are still scored as a 5.1 for slingshooters.

To separate out the F-TR or F-class guys who are often hitting the centre, these are scored a 6 for these two classes of shooter. So instead of getting a "possible" of 50 for ten shots, the F or F-TR guys get a 60.

Trouble was, many were hitting the V so often, there was little to distinguish the top shooters. So they added a super centre or "X" which is a 6.1 to further sort out the field.

Note that centres for slingshooters or X's for F/ F-TR are not actually normal decimal numbers. If you're adding up say three ranges from a day's shooting, the centres or X's are kept as their own distinct tally, eg 60.5 + 58.4 + 58.3 = 176.12, not 177.2 as in normal arithmetic.

Clear as mud no doubt.

Mud possibly tar but thanks.

Pretty much rushy he's shooting a 5 inch saucer and putting a few in the tea cup at 500y = good shooting.

Good analogy Niblet.

Trying to get X's at 1000 is like hitting a medium sized grapefruit...

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The display on version 2 of SMT is a big improvement. You have shot numbering, can display a yellow "group" ring, and it gives you the physical dimensions of your group as well.

I should have been 1/8 down and 1/4 right for this group :P

Scoring (top right) now also caters for both TR and F-Class. 50.6-1 is 10 x 5 (or better), 6 x V/6 (or better), and 1 x X, so 50.7 in TR terms or 56.1 in F-class terms

Nice shooting cyclops. I see you beat the youngster by a couple of points :D

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Nice shooting cyclops. I see you beat the youngster by a couple of points :D

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Thanks. The "youngster was still recovering from an early bout on influenza so wasn't at his best.
9 shots in the breeze strengthened a little and I wasn't sure if I should wait or not.
Gave it a moment, it didn't change further so I shot. I'll take the 6.

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Pretty much rushy he's shooting a 5 inch saucer and putting a few in the tea cup at 500y = good shooting.

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See now that I understand.

Cracked it myself today, only a club day - does that count ??

Been back at F and FTR for 3 months after a 35 year hiatus from smallbore and fullbore. Got an Omark M44 that had been worked over by Din Collings (supposedly for himself) with a rough stock but a lovely Kreiger CR 1:8 barrel. The rifle came with quite a few rounds of Viv's reloads, 80 gn sierra's over 2208 in Federal Nickel cases (cringe) and I knew after the first 100m session it was a shooter. Shot it with a Harris bipod and a IOR 2.5-10 scope, got a few 58.5.s etc but couldn't quite "crack the tonne".

Enter today a new Sightron 8-32x56 scope and voila - with little info/help from friends (adjust the diopter on the scope so you're not wearing your specs, keep head up so no cheek weld, and rest your eye from the scope) today in nice conditions I shot a 60.5 at 300. Yahoo Now all I have to do is repeat it on a consistent basis.

Awesome @Tentman, 300yds is probably the hardest distance to shoot a possible :thumbsup: It is interesting seeing how many folks folks do well at mids but never really crack it at shorts. Litz reckons you have much more info at mids and longs to help.

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Cracked it myself today, only a club day - does that count ??

Been back at F and FTR for 3 months after a 35 year hiatus from smallbore and fullbore.
Enter today a new Sightron 8-32x56 scope and voila - with little info/help from friends today in nice conditions I shot a 60.5 at 300.

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Well done good Sir. A "60" counts wherever/whenever you shoot it. Great Shooting. Celebrate your success.

300 yards seems to have to smallest margin for errors . 500 and 800 yards seem to be the easiest, possibly the largest target in proportion to distance.