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Hi all and Happy New Year.
Is anyone heading up to the Deer Stalkers Auckland range that knows anything about sighting in a Parker-hale PH5B sight for a P14? I am heading up to give it a go but was keen not to use 100 rounds in the process :) Any tips would be great.
Cheers,
What do you need to know? its a 1/2 MOA click, looking for one myself for my P14. It will be set to the MkVII ammo and for 300yds I'd expect it to be pretty close to the scale, 500 (+16~20clicks up from whatever 300 is) and 600yds (cant remember, and ive lost my range book, f***) you will probably be low. My load is 38gr 2208 with a barnaul 714gr fb fmj is light so I set 320yds and I think its 21clicks for 500yds from 300yds. Personally I find the blade a lot harder to shoot well with than a PH target front sight so picking one up is essential IMHO, sadly hard to find, ppl collect them and they are rarer than the ones for no4s.
:(
I may end up getting something made for the p14.
You should get about 1 1/2MOA ~ 2 MOA and a P14 should be a lot less sensitive to load. If its widely out probably a new barrel is called for, but they are $450NZ for a criterion so not too bad. A P14 can handle hotter loads than a no4 so 41~42gr 2208 might be a good spot, work up 1gr from 38 and see how it does, brass life will half though, if you have to buy brass I like privy myself, the much lauded 1943 is over-priced second hand, varies a lot (2+ grains) and seems to fail sooner.
I will be back Sunday evening, let us/me know how you go.
PS I'd shoot 100 anyway
:D
The elevation plates lowest marked range is 200 yards, so your best chance is to shoot from the 200m mound if they open that in the afternoon. That plate can be loosened by two small grub-screws so you can find the zero with your load and the target by moving the elevation screw and windage screw, then shift the elevation plate two 200 and tighten the grubs crews. You can't do that with the windage plate though, you'll have to use a front sight tool to zero windage with the windage plate centred.
Im not going to that range, I'm going to the other DA range at 12 for the Christmas Shoot. So if you want to go over things, and borrow my front sight tool, pop in to my place on your way in to the forest. Pm me for details.
The clevedon range shoudl be open next weekend for Carbineers match, you could zero at 2 or 300 there.
Here's hoping! Was looking forward to practice today. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by ishoot10s
I drove out there, and was wondering why i was the only one there... :(Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan
Had a chat with the farmer and came home to sulk...
Grant
...at least i dont need to clean my rifle.
Bugger. If you're in ASRA, make sure Stuart has your correct email address and you'll be kept up to date. He's pretty good at keeping the website up to date too.Quote:
Originally Posted by grunzter
I just registered for the email notifications...
Could you PM me Stuart's email address as i wrote to ASRA in early Decmeber but no reply... trying to join now... got form filled out and was hoping to kick it off today...
Will now aim to start with the RNZAF shoot in Feb. (I was at the same shoot last year as a spectator...how time flies...)
Thanks Grant.
Hi Ray,Quote:
Originally Posted by ishoot10s
The Windage can be Zero'd also it appears. It has a grub screw which shifts the scale. I'm getting ride up with a friend who has a 4x4 so may not be able to pop in but thanks for the offer. Will see you at Carbineers if the hay is done :S.
Damn that was a long way to go. What a bugger!.
Thanks for the info. I appreciate it. Will you let you know how I get on. Biggest issue previously is my ability to hold the gun in the same spot on the target. I built a Shooting rest today out of some 3x2 with adjsutable elevation. Hopefully that will help. (Waiting for the laughs after seeing my pics :) Cheers, RSQuote:
Originally Posted by steven
Good idea, nothing wrong with a home made unit when a shop one is $90+ IMHO.
Problem with a rest is its different to your hand and sling, so for ammo testing yes sure, for getting close yes sure but you may find adjustment is needed when onto a sling. This is especially noticeable for a no4, no3 might be OK.
What I do is sling up with glove and have a wooden block I made up the right height and I rest the back of my gloved hand lightly on the wooden block.
The rear sight unit apature I find sucky so Im looking for a modern unit that comes with the PH thread or an adapter.
Take a careful look for play in the unit in case that introduces problems, they do wear.
Managed to get it fairly close at 100m. Unfortunately they don't have the 200m open on these normal public days. :s. Sight seems to be nice and tight and was able to shoot reasonable shots continuously. Didn't end up measuring grouping or anything like that. Best part of the day was a guy that brought his .375 Elephant Gun in to fire one shot to make sure it still works. His earphones shot off his head and hit the back wall of the range haha. So awesome.
Oh mate, i was at the range on sunday, saw your 'contraption' but didnt know it was you!!!! (:ORLY:).....how did you get on?Quote:
Originally Posted by rs200nz
So it would seem as those aperture sights are like rocking horse shit, hmm. I found a P14 for a mate a few years and it has the same sight on board. Still is I think
Dammit, I was up there playing with new .22 but missed the elephant gun saga!
Fuk....i was on the 22 range too (#5) sighting in a JW-15 & a Ruger 10/22 (take down).......were all going to have to wear forum t-shirts or something!!!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tommy
yeah they are rare as hens teeth. I waited a year and missed out on two others before I got my one. Crazy gow the price of these rifles has shot right up as well. I have seen some on TM going for more the $900 in $1 reserve auctions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chop3r
You just need to know the secret handshake. :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Scouser
haha the contraption worked really well. Managed to get it zero'd and fired 5 additional shots onto the target for good measure. I wondered if anyone would be there from the forum :)
Im not 'dropping trou' for no one.....not in public anyway!!!!!!:PQuote:
Originally Posted by Ryan
Is that why you were gone so long.... you were off doing introductions...Quote:
Originally Posted by Scouser
Sorry again I had to spend time getting those two ladders shot for the 7RM and 223, Would have loved to have spent more time having a natter between rounds other than helping Richard out with his technique.
Don't know how those poor guys got on in the afternoon I was already starting to get Mirage at about 11am!!! Did you see the line up I counted at least 18cars plus those staying on from the morning session.
Yup mate about 4 benches to your right the only Lefty Bench being used as far as I could see. The Scouse was just to my left - well until he tried shooting his 223 single shot and realised it wasn't on the paper and ran of to the 25 - well that's his story anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by rs200nz
Richard and I were shooting load Dev on his subs and supers for his 243 and 7mil and I was shooting 7RM and 223 to do load dev on 223 with 55gr blitz Kings and 7RM with my 162 Amax's.
Fun morning...
We got a slight breeze in the afternoon, wasn't too hot at all. We did get icecreams on the way home though, from that Boric place up the road. Actually extremely good icecream come to mention it...
oh nice. Had a laugh when the RO came across and made me unload my rifle while I was asking one of the guys standing behind me which paper on my target I should shoot (had two side by side). Was about to shoot but somehow removing the round and sticking it back in 3 seconds later was necessary to take my shot. lol
That would be Arthur, he's a good sort.
I was last in the queue so ended up on the 50m range instead as the 25m range was rammed full of people. Wasn't even on the frame initially haha, after a minor bollocking for shooting with no real idea where the rounds were going, Arthur the RO helped me out with a bore sight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scouser
Yep ebay if you are lucky, the sucky part is if they are good or worn out you wont know till you see them.
