Some of mine are 12mm mild steel at 10" rounds , 208 A max sprays of them leaving a grey splash 600 yards VLD will deep crater at that distance . both projectiles go right thru 12mm mild from a little under 500 . Al tho i have done i don't use any of the mild gongs under 900 VLD's will still give them some cratering at that range . Generally all i need do is fresh coat of paint make'm almost new again ,at 900 up for me they perform almost as good as the Bisaloy gongs , and cheap as chips some thing like 5 bucks a plate cut . i will say im not recommending using the mild but just saying i do and have found they work ok at range .
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