Thread: Downloading / Reduced loads for youth or recoil sensitive shooters

Originally Posted by GWH

It really comes down to what projectile you use, and how that performs at that impact velocity at said distance. Hence why frangible varmint bullets can work quite well with these lower velocities.

IE the 6mm 87gr Vmax performs damn well on medium game at lower impacts velocities, ie out around 400-500 yards from a full power 243. Equally, it would also work well at 150-200 yards if its terminal velocity was in the same area as it was at 400-500 yards from a full power load.

When I looked at using some 90 gr HP's (which I have already) in the BSA 270 reduced loads, then I read that they need to go at 3400 + to stabilise so that wont work. Just tricky with the component shortage to make the best of what we have esp when we dont need a lot of rounds

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

When I looked at using some 90 gr HP's (which I have already) in the BSA 270 reduced loads, then I read that they need to go at 3400 + to stabilise so that wont work. Just tricky with the component shortage to make the best of what we have esp when we dont need a lot of rounds

Maybe a 110gr Vmax?

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

When I looked at using some 90 gr HP's (which I have already) in the BSA 270 reduced loads, then I read that they need to go at 3400 + to stabilise so that wont work. Just tricky with the component shortage to make the best of what we have esp when we dont need a lot of rounds

that doesnt make sense....90grn projectile will be short stubby wee suckers...so if anything will be over stabilised cause they will be spinning too fast.
and a 90 grn .277 projectie will not produce stuff all recoil anyway....pick a middle of road load and have a go bud...you got nothing to loose.
I tried 110grn hps years ago and was awesome terminal preformance on SMALL stuff,they hardly exited hares!!!!! very very volatile. I have loaded them up for RUMPY and they work well for him too.... if you looking for reduced load for .270 and medium game,a 110grn will reduce recoil but a 130grn speer btsp will be a better bet as they are very soft while still being a bit heavier,the 150s would work too....

My main full power hunting load is 43g 2206h with 150g Cor lokt ,was thinking 35g might be a good starting point,work up in .5g increments ,no chrono so be guesswork mostly ,will go for most accurate ..dpt suppressed A7 with 16 in barrel.

Originally Posted by The bomb

My main full power hunting load is 43g 2206h with 150g Cor lokt ,was thinking 35g might be a good starting point,work up in .5g increments ,no chrono so be guesswork mostly ,will go for most accurate ..dpt suppressed A7 with 16 in barrel.

Greetings @The bomb and All,
43 grains of AR2206H is pretty much the start load (Max is 45.5 grains) and would be giving around 2,500 fps in that barrel. 35 grains would be under 2,000 fps. 38 grains should give around 2,150 fps and 40 grains about 2,300 fps. Rather than working up in small increments it might be better to decide on a target velocity, pick a load to develop that and test it. Generally tha accuracy will get better as you work up but the .308 is such a well mannered cartridge that hard to get a bad load, especially when using AR2206H. This is why I fiddle with older cartridges rather than using the .308 for everything.
Regards Grandpamac.

Originally Posted by Moa Hunter

.. 90 gr HP's (which I have already) in the BSA 270 reduced loads, then I read that they need to go at 3400 + to stabilise so that wont work. ..

Short-for-calibre bullets don't need to go fast to stabilise. It's actually the opposite- long bullets where the twist rate is marginal may be half useable when driven hard. If a short bullet doesn't shoot, you can't blame the lack of velocity per se. The rifle may just hate that particular bullet or your loading isn't right.

Originally Posted by 6x47

Short-for-calibre bullets don't need to go fast to stabilise. It's actually the opposite- long bullets where the twist rate is marginal may be half useable when driven hard. If a short bullet doesn't shoot, you can't blame the lack of velocity per se. The rifle may just hate that particular bullet or your loading isn't right.

I have used the 90's before at full speed to turn goats into clotheslines and thought they might work reduced. I know that some rifles dont like them and so googled up on 'accuracy probs with the Sierra 90 gr hp'. From what I read they had to be run fast before they would group 3400 +,(writers wrote 'stabalise') this defeated the purpose of using them in a reduced load so I ended up loading 50 130gr Partitions at 2660 after load testing Hornady 130 spire points at 2630 and have 46 left after checking zero for hunting starting tomorrow afternoon with luck !