head games

After recently having had a near miss /reloading mishap causing rifle to be destroyed,my mind has been battling with getting back on horse ,so to speak.....
I have had some re tweaked reloads sitting on bench for two weeks now, just waiting for me to "get around" to shooting them....had plenty of time,had plenty of oppertunities....just couldnt find motovation to do so.
tonight after a pep talk from a good mate (you know who you are) I finally went and poked some holes in paper....no issues at all,once first shot had been fired,all was good again in my mind.

years back I had bad spell with the dreaded "rhymes with grinch",HATED shooting paper,at all,rezeroing rifle was a chore.... my reloads were mild...very mild looking back.....then I fitted suppressors and got back into rhythem of things...rifles dont bite,dont kick,reloads got hotter again and have had 8 happy years,then recent hiccup bought all the old fears back in spades.
had to do same thing all over again....think it through,
rifle will boot a little,
it will make noise,
all will be fine,
suck it up buttercup,
concentrate on sight picture,
super steady,
squeaze off the shot....
breath again
hope my rambling helps someone else.

Thanks for that, I too had a "grinch" problem about 30 years ago - I was shooting a 7x57 at the time so I don't know how it came about but it was a very frustrating period. Eventually it just went away and now I'm good even with snorty short barrel jobbies (being bloody careful to wear good earmuffs for any range shooting).

You are dead right that its a "head game" but its hard to see the wood for the trees at the time . . . .

Poofta's the lot of ya!! Says he who wears ear plugs, ear muffs, safety glasses and who's rifles have suppressors......:D

I'm a shocking flincher. The best thing I have found is spending some time visualizing shooting, I try to see the sight picture, squeezing the trigger and calmly following through despite big recoil/sound. If I do that enough I can do it on the day.

Near misses make you learn, you never forget a near miss, if you do, it wasnt near enough.

He he I've been known to put the first round of a new batch into the ground just sort of resting the rifle out in front of me at arms length.
After that I'm fine. Touch wood i have never had a serious problem.
Z

I probably shouldn't be reading this thread....

First time reloader, starting with 338 lap mag , and zero prior experience I'm a little worried shit might go south on me ( "shit" being the bolt or receiver parts going south into my face ) when I pull trigger for the first time....
The brass is all ready to go and primed but can't quite bring myself to load it up yet .....
Pussy, I know.....

Anyone know of a full suit of medieval armour for sale ?

Good comment @Micky Duck
When are you buying a replacement 270 ?
Or are you upgrading to a EBRG ? :thumbsup:

Time for a few photos of the replacement (Howa?) @Micky Duck

the Green machine is going well.....the wee fixed 4x M8 sits proudly on top and fits right in.

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Originally Posted by Ftx325

I probably shouldn't be reading this thread....

First time reloader, starting with 338 lap mag , and zero prior experience I'm a little worried shit might go south on me ( "shit" being the bolt or receiver parts going south into my face ) when I pull trigger for the first time....
The brass is all ready to go and primed but can't quite bring myself to load it up yet .....
Pussy, I know.....

Anyone know of a full suit of medieval armour for sale ?

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Tie it to a stainer post and have a string off the trigger?

nope.....check n double check data...pick a low load/start load... weight your charge.... make your round...then go and shoot it...to be sure wear ear protection and glasses,but it WILL BE FINE if you have done your bits right...... its a head game,you need to trust load and back yourself.
after seeing what hornady superpreformance 150grn loads did in mates brand new sako last Christmas,I am just as weary of factory loads...them suckers were hotter than a hot thing and blew a primer and flattened others so were terribly inconsistant...... one of you chronicgraph users might have fun running them through for ES....

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Tie it to a stainer post and have a string off the trigger?

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Or give the lad the dubious honor of taking the first shot...:huh:

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Originally Posted by Ftx325

I probably shouldn't be reading this thread....

First time reloader, starting with 338 lap mag , and zero prior experience I'm a little worried shit might go south on me ( "shit" being the bolt or receiver parts going south into my face ) when I pull trigger for the first time....
The brass is all ready to go and primed but can't quite bring myself to load it up yet .....
Pussy, I know.....

Anyone know of a full suit of medieval armour for sale ?

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I was like this a few weeks ago, started with the minimum powder recommendation and was very nervous firing off those first rounds. Still get a bit nervous but starting to find my feet after asking lots of questions on here.

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Originally Posted by Micky Duck

After recently having had a near miss /reloading mishap causing rifle to be destroyed,my mind has been battling with getting back on horse ,so to speak.....
I have had some re tweaked reloads sitting on bench for two weeks now, just waiting for me to "get around" to shooting them....had plenty of time,had plenty of oppertunities....just couldnt find motovation to do so.
tonight after a pep talk from a good mate (you know who you are) I finally went and poked some holes in paper....no issues at all,once first shot had been fired,all was good again in my mind.

years back I had bad spell with the dreaded "rhymes with grinch",HATED shooting paper,at all,rezeroing rifle was a chore.... my reloads were mild...very mild looking back.....then I fitted suppressors and got back into rhythem of things...rifles dont bite,dont kick,reloads got hotter again and have had 8 happy years,then recent hiccup bought all the old fears back in spades.
had to do same thing all over again....think it through,
rifle will boot a little,
it will make noise,
all will be fine,
suck it up buttercup,
concentrate on sight picture,
super steady,
squeaze off the shot....
breath again
hope my rambling helps someone else.

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This opens a wider topic than just shooting 'How to deal with the mental consequences of traumatic situations' Having a gun blow up would make me forget hunting and go fishing, so good on you for keeping at it.
A bad / cheating relationship can put us off rooting for a while, a car crash can make us windy about driving. I dont know the answer to your situation MD (or the others) as it is a symptom of a bigger issue FEAR. How to overcome the fear of the same happening again. I do know time heals and all that but it would be nice to have some tools and methods to speed the process

John Wayne "true grit is having the fear ,and saddling up anyway"

pretty much sums it up bud.

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John Wayne "true grit is having the fear ,and saddling up anyway"

pretty much sums it up bud.

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I have never seen the movie so I watched the trailer. Seems like a great movie. The young girl had the grit and john Wayne had turned to the bottle and fell off his horse pissed !

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This opens a wider topic than just shooting 'How to deal with the mental consequences of traumatic situations' Having a gun blow up would make me forget hunting and go fishing, so good on you for keeping at it.
A bad / cheating relationship can put us off rooting for a while, a car crash can make us windy about driving. I dont know the answer to your situation MD (or the others) as it is a symptom of a bigger issue FEAR. How to overcome the fear of the same happening again. I do know time heals and all that but it would be nice to have some tools and methods to speed the process

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I recommend this book. Recently published. Ive bought 2 copies now and given both away (after reading it myself).

https://www.whitcoulls.co.nz/product...-angst-6596013

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John Wayne "true grit is having the fear ,and saddling up anyway"

pretty much sums it up bud.

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The John Wayne version is very rip roaring, the remake was just odd.

My wife has just bought the book, 'The life changing art of not giving a flying fuck'

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I recommend this book. Recently published. Ive bought 2 copies now and given both away (after reading it myself).

https://www.whitcoulls.co.nz/product...-angst-6596013

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Does the book give us the tools to deal and recover from traumatic situations or does it just examine / explore what goes on ??

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Does the book give us the tools to deal and recover from traumatic situations or does it just examine / explore what goes on ??

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@Moa Hunter its chocker with tools and interventions as well as dipping into the theory. Includes illustrations and cartoons.

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@Moa Hunter its chocker with tools and interventions as well as dipping into the theory. Includes illustrations and cartoons.

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Be very useful then. I think if we are honest, nearly all of us have had some crap happen somewhere along the path of life

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I have never seen the movie so I watched the trailer. Seems like a great movie. The young girl had the grit and john Wayne had turned to the bottle and fell off his horse pissed !

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find it and watch it...Glen Campbell in it too if memory serves me right. he couldnt shoot for shit so got a sawn of SxS....young woman used a 44/40 colt dragoon.....think that was only superseeded by the 44 mag as most powerful handgun....

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find it and watch it...Glen Campbell in it too if memory serves me right. he couldnt shoot for shit so got a sawn of SxS....young woman used a 44/40 colt dragoon.....think that was only superseeded by the 44 mag as most powerful handgun....

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You realise its not real, eh. :)

I know.....but was a great movie for an impressionable young fella....

I find the best way to get the shooting technique right when you get a bit flinchy to to go back to dry firing (at home on a paper target, and also using the .22LR. Focus on technique and shooting tight groups.

Then your build on this by starting each session with the .22 before moving up the calibres, .22, then .222/3 and then into the bigger center fires. The confidence flows on and up the tree.

I do think you also need a natural inclination of some sort though . My 13 yr old daughter shoots my 338 yet full grown men , even after seeing my daughter shoot it , still cower from having a go .
And I have offered the 45/70 for a few shots to others but they seem to find it intimidating and have turned it down without even trying it out . Just the size of the round is enough to put them off . Fair enough too.... We all like different things are are put off by different things .
I don't mind a kick , others don't like it , but I wouldn't hold it against them .....
Depends what you are used to as well I guess .

Greetings All,
I think that the thing that helped me in shooting was starting to use a proper rest and rear bag on a solid bench. The second thing was concentrating on the follow through after the shot ie not jerking your head back after the shot. Early on I shot with a sand bag on the spare tire on the bonnet of my Landrover standing and leaning on the wing. This worked OK but shooting with a proper rest on the concrete benches at Taupo was a revelation. I recently tested some loads in my old .308 on my home bench and it shot better than ever before. As we get older some days we are not up to it, we just have to be honest with ourselves on those days.
Regards Grandpamac.

Have had a couple of 338 Laps built on 995 actions, shot them comfortably, the only flinch I developed was when I was doing some LR with the boy, and I had accidentally taken the muzzle brake off without him seeing before he got on the gun. The names he called me a minute later gave my ears a flinch that lasted ages.:smash:

NEVER prop yourself with your shoulders against a boulder when firing uphill, even with a lowly 308.

Even after the bruising has gone the flinch remains...

or put shoulder against door jam with 12ga............

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or get your eye up to the scope lens when firing a magnum calibre....

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‘Cos the resulting blood flowing down onto the cheek piece makes it slippery and hard for you to ‘cheek weld’!

When I was 16 I brought a 12 gauge hammer gun. One of dads mates said put the butt against your thigh and fire it first to see if it's safe.
I let rip with both barrels and have never forgotten it.

Teaching or learning good technique is important.

When my son started target shooting I had him start with a 223 so he didn't develop a flinch.
(He was a skinny 14 year old.)
After a season with the 223 he progressed to a 308 and has never looked back.

We've introduced a number of people to shooting on the range over the last couple of years.
Teaching them how to properly hold and aim the rifle distracts them from thinking about the recoil.
They typically leave with a big smile and are now supporters of shooting sports/disciplines.

lol I went hunting with my stepfather when I was 14 and he gave me a shot with a 12G side by side. Of course he never said how to stand or to pull it in hard against my shoulder, so standing with my feet spread I pointed the gun out the front and pulled both triggers. Went flat on my back and had a bruise on my shoulder for 6 weeks. Put me off shotguns for decades.

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When I was 16 I brought a 12 gauge hammer gun. One of dads mates said put the butt against your thigh and fire it first to see if it's safe.
I let rip with both barrels and have never forgotten it.

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its one thing subsonic rounds and a suppressor are AWESOME for...recoil shy people....no noise = no scaredycat flinch...couple of subs then mild few supers then full noise job.....

I once had a 7.62 cook off in my face as i was changing belts on a mag58. Total pants shitting moment that was. I was 18 and thinking "ok thats it im now blind". As luck would have it i just got atomised brass in my face, and half the cartridge went down the barrel with the bullet.
Swapped barrels, belt on, 'build a bridge mate'. The army was a loony place sometimes.

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Poofta's the lot of ya!! Says he who wears ear plugs, ear muffs, safety glasses and who's rifles have suppressors......:D

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PARDON????!!!!

cheers for sharing I recall your story on some body else's thread id love to see a photo or here more about what happened . if I remember correctly it was not the powder you'd thought gifted from a friend. did it literally blow up?

got face full of hot grit...bolt was stuck fast...got home and had to hammer it open with rubber mallet and poke old steel cleaning rod down barrel and hit it with 20oz hammer to back bolt out ...case is permanently stuck in end of bolt...action is poked... bolt lug that has extractor claw in/on it expanded and broke around claw... rifle is toast....still have perfectly good barrel.2x stocks and mag,bottom plate etc......could maybe buy another action and rebuild but have replaced with new HOWA.
the strenght and design of action saved me from serious injury...I was wearing sunnies,dont normally,that poosibly saved my eyesight.