Thread: Long range shooting course

Glycol is antifreeze isint it?

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

Glycol is antifreeze isint it?

Ya Ethylene Glycol

which little bear has been screwing with my settings -Moma bear , dada bear or the little crazyman bear

Ethylene glycol = nasty poison in antifreeze
Propylene glycol = gloopy stuff in food

hopefully the latter one!

Tussock , here is something you might like to use rather than type out for future matches so all are clear on saftey






Safety
1. Violation of any safety rules will result in banishment
2. Firearm safety rules are the baseline for safety at this match.
3. Competitors shall practice good muzzle control and firearm safety at all times. Competitors that do not handle their weapons safely will be disqualified from competing.
1. Do not ever allow the muzzle of your weapons to point at anyone.
2. Do not load your weapons until directed to do so by a range officer.
3. Do not put your finger on the trigger until your sights are aligned with your target.
4. Obey all Range Officer commands immediately.
4. In addition an Accidental Discharge, the stage RO may call an A.D. using his own judgement. Example: if the competitor was clearly not engaging a target. Any round that does not impact within 10 yards of the target the competitor is engaging is declared to be an AD.
5. The entire competition area is a "cold range."
1. No firearms may be loaded at the match site except under the direct command of a RO.
2. Long-guns shall be kept unloaded, and carried muzzle up or muzzle down and the action open.
3. "Sweeping" any person with a weapon's muzzle will result in immediate D.Q.
6. All firearms must have a functioning safety, subject to verification by an RO at any time.
7. Any firearm or ammunition deemed by any RO or match staff to be "unsafe" for any reason may not be used in the match until a determination is made by the match director that it may continue
8. Any firearm that can be demonstrated by any RO or match staff to have a hammer/striker that will fall without the trigger being pressed shall be deemed unsafe and may not be used in the match until repaired.
9. Any rifle slung must have an empty chamber, unless directed by the stage RO.
10. No person shall consume or be under the influence of alcohol or non-prescription drugs at the match site. Any person found to be impaired and unsafe as a result of legitimate prescription drugs may be directed to stop shooting and requested to leave the range.
11. Eye and ear protection is mandatory.
12. This match includes dynamic shooting in natural terrain. Match staff will communicate what are safe directions to point firearms while shooting, or while waiting. This will typically be presented during a stage or match briefing. The competitor shall note and obey the safe muzzle direction guidelines.
Equipment
1. Rifle
1. Minimum caliber: .223
2. Maximum caliber: .338 Lapua Magnum
2. Any shooting accessories may be used provided they are carried by the competitor during every stage. Accessories include but are not limited to:
1. bipods, bags, shooting sticks, slings, jackets, gloves, or other shooting support devices
2. optics such as spotting scopes, binoculars, and range-finders
3. The competitor may use only one rifle during the course of the entire match. A rifle is defined to consist of a specific combination of receiver/action, stock, barrel, muzzle devices, sighting systems.
4. Ammunition and magazines may be replenished at any time.
5. Ammunition that must be "fired" to be unloaded once chambered is declared to be unsafe and may not be used in this match. All firearms must be able to be completely unloaded without firing a round.
6. No steel core, steel jacketed, armor piercing, incendiary or tracer bullets are permitted.
7. In the event a weapon breaks or becomes inoperable during the match, the shooter may substitute a weapon of substantially similar configuration for subsequent stages, but only after approval by the Match Director.

SCORING
Each stage will be scored in a manner to reward accuracy, other factors, or some combination thereof. Accuracy will be emphasized, and first-round rifle hits will be worth more than second round hits (if permitted by the stage brief). Stage scores will be normalized into match points to comprise the overall match scores. Full scoring details to follow.
PENALTIES
1. The Match Director has the right to disqualify any competitor for Unsportsmanlike Conduct based on his judgment.
Note: rules are subject to change up until the match date. Final match and stage briefings supersede all prior information.

Oh yeah El B, that picture you have is crap, Hitler did not institute gun control, neither did Stalin, not sure about the rest. Just another another anti control law propaganda bullshit. In pretty bad taste to.

Originally Posted by Savage1

Oh yeah El B, that picture you have is crap, Hitler did not institute gun control, neither did Stalin, not sure about the rest. Just another another anti control law propaganda bullshit. In pretty bad taste to.

In pretty bad taste to?? do explain please ! see links below and come back to me.look up 'sarcasm' also and the image may come a little more sensible.
Hows your roster for the 25th?

Gun Control Hall of Fame

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Originally Posted by Savage1

Oh yeah El B, that picture you have is crap, Hitler did not institute gun control, neither did Stalin, not sure about the rest. Just another another anti control law propaganda bullshit. In pretty bad taste to.

Do you survive to stir shit?

Ahh, cool. Here was I thinking the thread had done it's dash.

Haha yeah I do enjoy stirring a bit of shit, the bad taste was about relating gun control to human genocide.

Yea mate 1609m with two .338s. The great mile shot. Peice of...

Originally Posted by el borracho

HaHA Dont sweat it Norway it will come good its just some of the boys like to have a chop and don't even know it LOL.
The thread originally was abouta long range shooting course -of course ! I think they are worth doing but it needs to be proven worth while .Is it worth going ? well that depends what you want from that course -I would pay for a shooting course based in different terrain with an expert wind caller .As many can see this is the most interesting thing to me to make first shot hits at distance -why first shot hits -because it means I am doing something right !

So you only like to listen to people with a track record of winning shooting competitions.
Shooting competitions in the mountains are pretty rare unless you count the "bet you cant hit that rock over there" "bet I can" type and these dont usually end with a prize giving unless you count a impromptu hand full of dry wild animal shit being thrown at someone.

So you want a proven competition winner who is an expert mountain wind caller(if there is such a thing) to hold a course for preferably nothing in little ol NZ.........................Choosy much?

Best way to learn about wind in the mountains is spend some time up them..... Hunting would be as good a excuse as any.

Problem with Auckland Vietnamcam is we don't have those beautiful big shingle slope mountains .with a miss you can easily see the strike and make changes .I gotta say im at some months off 50 I am not even slightly as fit as I once was and having one knee and a wobbly joint to much time in the mountains would eventually mean a full knee reconstruction other wise I would come hunting down your way -I am not a hunter but would .
Taking advice from winners is usually a good idea -now winner may just mean someone that I know that shoots well -you see everybody has an opinion and I have mates that eyes just bounce together as they splurge crap but they still think they're correct - you cant take advice from everyone! I shoot shitloads to -so much I'm broke at the moment but not in all the conditions and terrain I would like but that just means more traveling --remember boys if your ever in Auckland I am more than glad to take you plinking , hospitality means a lot to me

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

So you only like to listen to people with a track record of winning shooting competitions.
Shooting competitions in the mountains are pretty rare unless you count the "bet you cant hit that rock over there" "bet I can" type and these dont usually end with a prize giving unless you count a impromptu hand full of dry wild animal shit being thrown at someone.

So you want a proven competition winner who is an expert mountain wind caller(if there is such a thing) to hold a course for preferably nothing in little ol NZ.........................Choosy much?

Best way to learn about wind in the mountains is spend some time up them..... Hunting would be as good a excuse as any.

2012 STEEL SAFARI - - COMPETITION DYNAMICS

A competition like this would be very cool. A lot of fun, and test your skills in a very practical, directly translating to hunting, type of way.

I intend to run one when I have the time.

http://demigodllc.com/articles/steel-safari-2010/?p=1

http://demigodllc.com/articles/blue-...el-safari-2006

http://demigodllc.com/articles/blue-...el-safari-2007

http://demigodllc.com/articles/color...el-safari-2008


One of these links explains the concept well but my internet is too slow to load any of them.

Originally Posted by gimp

2012 STEEL SAFARI - - COMPETITION DYNAMICS

A competition like this would be very cool. A lot of fun, and test your skills in a very practical, directly translating to hunting, type of way.

I intend to run one when I have the time.

This style of course is surprisingly difficult. I ran a medium to long range course under this format in Rotorua a couple or three months ago. Learnt some lessons on how to run them. Out of the ten invited competitors i had there only really four were serious and of them only one got over halfway on points. Planning making the next one a bit easier. One competitor (who ended up 2nd overall) made 7 from 14 first shots on targets ranging from 350m to 960m. I made 5 first round hits from 14 and the first place getter only made 4!