Long range shooting course

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Originally Posted by Norway

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My hope is that you'd stop looking to the US motormouths, replace "Norways LR CD" with an updated local version* and put what you already have into an accessible and inclusive system.

(* I'd suggest you divide various topics out to board members, telling them to make 3-10 "childrens book pages" (tons of pics, little text), collect them, put them in order and publish as a pdf.)

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Thats a great Idea Norway ! I tried to start a thread on wind and mirage sometime back, adding ideas of members and other people from around the net others had published or vids or diagrams that were sensible and had been posted .
Sadly your CD was seen as the be all and end all of wind and I was informed we didn't require anything else and the thread turned in to a shit fight LOL so good to see you promoting the idea of a NZ collections of info I ll support that .
Most things in shooting are mechanical getting the basics right the only one that has a little bit of je ne sais quoi is wind - Wind is exciting and for ever changing

My CD is outdated

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Originally Posted by James

-Sure was :thumbsup: For the ultimate experience: Did you ever end up stumbling into "KC's"?? It was a dodgy upstairs nightclub on George St (a 4 minute crawl from the Cook).

Universally known as "K-Sleaze" -The dodgy owner used to stand at the top of the stairs giving Lollipops to girls as they came in.....I think I nearly caught HIV from the glassware.

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No I dont think I did James. I actually liked Dunners, very nice town and seemed to have less agro in the pubs as some places I have been.
I reckon no one makes a lollie pop look more inviting than Salma Hayek does in the film Dogma.

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Originally Posted by Norway

Interesting developmet :D

My hope is that you'd stop looking to the US motormouths, replace "Norways LR CD" with an updated local version* and put what you already have into an accessible and inclusive system.

(* I'd suggest you divide various topics out to board members, telling them to make 3-10 "childrens book pages" (tons of pics, little text), collect them, put them in order and publish as a pdf.)

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I have actually written up something similar to this, a basic "everything" guide to LR. Hesitant to post it as I have no "credentials" I can point to.

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Originally Posted by R93

No I dont think I did James. I actually liked Dunners, very nice town and seemed to have less agro in the pubs as some places I have been.
I reckon no one makes a lollie pop look more inviting than Salma Hayek does in the film Dogma.

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..you didn't miss anything that wouldn't be fixed by a dose of antibiotics ;)

Dunners was great. Nice atmosphere in general. And very little agro in the pubs. -I ended up working security in bars for my last 3 yrs as a student there, it was pretty stress-free and usually more funny than agro.
Then I moved to Chch, and couldn't believe the agro/violence, you would have thought it was a different country- not 4 hrs up the road.


As for Selma Hayek- I hear you. I could probably watch her talk for hours...on mute.

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Originally Posted by Norway

My CD is outdated

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I'm pleased you said it.

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Originally Posted by James

-Sure was :thumbsup: For the ultimate experience: Did you ever end up stumbling into "KC's"?? It was a dodgy upstairs nightclub on George St (a 4 minute crawl from the Cook).

Universally known as "K-Sleaze" -The dodgy owner used to stand at the top of the stairs giving Lollipops to girls as they came in.....I think I nearly caught HIV from the glassware.

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KC's is closed now

Thankfully.

Were they still doing "$1 Doubles nights" when you were there?

I think someone decided that it was illegal.

I have no credentials either. Go for it stooopid! If you want it done, do it. Someone always has to do the breachand get things started, that is the way of things.

If you can do by example people will listen. I suggest you stay away from the subject reloading ;D

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Originally Posted by gimp

I have actually written up something similar to this, a basic "everything" guide to LR. Hesitant to post it as I have no "credentials" I can point to.

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Bullshit. You should post it.

I have shot with Malcom and Simon Gillice once and found them extremely humble.They didnt say much but boy Malcom just let his 223 do the talking!
That was one of the shoots that Simon organised for Taihape deer stalkers.
Once we plyed them with some of the mighty Taihape truth serum did we draw some of their secrets out of them!
I must say it takes all sorts from large egos dickheads know alls smart bastards funny bastards lip draggers good c%unts you name it but at the end of the day i have enjoyed 99% of the people i have met competitively and learn a shit load as well.
I am lucky as i can go and shoot at work pinging magpies hares rabbits and the odd sqawking bird so it does not worry me just shooting 20 shots for the day at a small comp.
There are arguments for both sides but if you dont have a go you will never know.
I wanted to try marriage so did that the other day, I have never been divorced so at least i can try that now if the need arises!
See you at the next central north island gong shoot that me and plilipo are supposed to be organising!

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Originally Posted by gimp

I have actually written up something similar to this, a basic "everything" guide to LR. Hesitant to post it as I have no "credentials" I can point to.

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post it Gimp always good to read someone else s ideas .The thing is plenty here know how to do most things but many don't and they will learn from it and of course it can always be added to !!

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Originally Posted by andyanimal31

I wanted to try marriage so did that the other day, I have never been divorced so at least i can try that now if the need arises!

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-Have you read KIWIGREG's forum signature line? ;)

Ps. Congratulations on getting hitched :thumbsup:

Spent many a messy night at kcs and the cook and a couple of others,used to love docking in dunners. If a man with a wallet full of cash cant pull a root in dunners there is no hope:yaeh am not durnk:

Post it up Gimp.

I'll do it up as a PDF and post it when I'm back home next, it's on my laptop and I've only got iPad here. Much of it is influenced by Norway's method

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Originally Posted by Norway

I suggest you stay away from the subject reloading ;D

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Hahaha good call

Something that Norway has done on film that I enjoy alot is foliage movement and different wind strengths -its great to be able to visulize these things and go to the field and watch and call wind

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Originally Posted by James

-Have you read KIWIGREG's forum signature line? ;)

Ps. Congratulations on getting hitched :thumbsup:

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I certainly have and more than a touch of truth to it i suspect!
Philipo came and made sure ther was a forum presence at the subsequent piss up for my birthday slash wedding and got appropiatly rat faced
Next shoot we will book some decent weather as 23 mph at a thousand was a bit of a challenge!

I never had a printer. Writing it on a bit of paper worked. Now I've got fancy made-in-excel ones.

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Originally Posted by gimp

I'll do it up as a PDF and post it when I'm back home next, it's on my laptop and I've only got iPad here.

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Do that and in accordance with the tall poppy syndrome we'll prepare to club you down as best we can :D

youd better not make it to good gimp or watch out

Tall poppy syndrome (TPS) is a pejorative term primarily used in New Zealand's south Island to describe a social phenomenon in which people of genuine merit are resented, attacked, cut down, or criticized because their talents or achievements elevate them above or distinguish them from their peers.

I know, there was a hint of humour. "Prepare to shrug it off and do your thing Gimp" was the message. It doesn't matter who you are or how nice you are, there will ALWAYS be a fair percentage that doesn't like you. The trick is not paying to much intention to them, but rather focus on the rest.

You don't picnic right next to the only dog turd in the park do you?

I doubt there will be a single negative comment ,and I for one look forward to reading gimps analysis

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Originally Posted by el borracho

youd better not make it to good gimp or watch out

Tall poppy syndrome (TPS) is a pejorative term primarily used in New Zealand's south Island to describe a social phenomenon in which people of genuine merit are resented, attacked, cut down, or criticized because their talents or achievements elevate them above or distinguish them from their peers.

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If you seriously describe yourself like the above, it is no wonder. Hilarious!

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Originally Posted by James

Google says "Yes" Greg:

6.9.1 Wind Flag—Wind flags should be displayed at various distances between the firing line and the targets.
It is recommended that the flags be placed at 200, 500 and 700 yards. It is further recommended that the flag be
48” by 18” at tip and 12’ in length. This flag will be of two colors, red and yellow.

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Thanks James,

So getting back to an earlier post, F class has flags so that is very handy, shooting at animals in the feild is generally flag-less so you need to try & read the vegetation, stuff in the air, animals fur/hair, etc it also has angles, so what you are trying to read can be a long way from the ground, quite a lot removed from F-class target shooting really...... not saving it wouldn't be helpful though :)

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Originally Posted by R93

If you seriously describe yourself like the above, it is no wonder. Hilarious!

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your verging on tall poppy syndrome r93 -those with it will not even notice it flow from there fingertips onto the forum because they just feel subconsciously agrieved
:yaeh am not durnk:

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Originally Posted by el borracho

your verging on tall poppy syndrome r93 -those with it will not even notice it flow from there fingertips onto the forum because they just feel subconsciously agrieved
:yaeh am not durnk:

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No, I dont think so EL B. I will admit now that I am average at most things I do and above average at none;) Oh...maybe one thing, coz people seem to keep calling me one.

Im bloody excellent in my own mind at everything I do -reality may be different !! lol;)

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Originally Posted by Tussock

He would need to think you were a tall poppy before being motivated to chop you.

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only tall poppys can see it happening-ill let you know when:thumbsup:

So much for a productive thread. I had such hopes :-p

HaHA Dont sweat it Norway it will come good its just some of the boys like to have a chop and don't even know it LOL.
The thread originally was abouta long range shooting course -of course ! I think they are worth doing but it needs to be proven worth while .Is it worth going ? well that depends what you want from that course -I would pay for a shooting course based in different terrain with an expert wind caller .As many can see this is the most interesting thing to me to make first shot hits at distance -why first shot hits -because it means I am doing something right !

I can smell the yellow man-water from across the globe...



... literary, the cleaning staff haven't done the toilets at work yet.

... Since I'm at 67 North and you are somewhere south, does that mean I by default piss higher than you ???

that depends if you think north is the top or bottom

Norway what do you think of shooting courses ? I believe you teach in your own country

To believe does not make it true.

What on earth are you really asking about?

your opinion on shooting courses .There are many types and do they offer enough to spend big dollars ?I am told you take or teach courses in Norway so you would have an educated opinion on them,I have never attended one mind you we dont have any here as such

My unfiltered opinion:

They are offered by motormouth for military wankers.

Enlist, get the proper training and go kill people for real in a government sanctioned way and in defence of your comrades.

Otherwise, join the local club and get the technical proficiency required for all shooting.

Fair answer .I have been dazzled in the past by all there is learn as a non military person by ex soldiers who teach courses - often their credentialed are displayed to say they can teach you more than you can learn yourself at a club or by a knowledgeable peer who shoots .
I am confident with much of my shooting to help others but also not arrogant enough not to listen to good advice .The only thing that is a constant battle is wind calls for first round hits and that is just something I enjoy doing

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Originally Posted by el borracho

HaHA Dont sweat it Norway it will come good its just some of the boys like to have a chop and don't even know it LOL.
The thread originally was abouta long range shooting course -of course ! I think they are worth doing but it needs to be proven worth while .Is it worth going ? well that depends what you want from that course -I would pay for a shooting course based in different terrain with an expert wind caller .As many can see this is the most interesting thing to me to make first shot hits at distance -why first shot hits -because it means I am doing something right !

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So you only like to listen to people with a track record of winning shooting competitions.
Shooting competitions in the mountains are pretty rare unless you count the "bet you cant hit that rock over there" "bet I can" type and these dont usually end with a prize giving unless you count a impromptu hand full of dry wild animal shit being thrown at someone.

So you want a proven competition winner who is an expert mountain wind caller(if there is such a thing) to hold a course for preferably nothing in little ol NZ.........................Choosy much?

Best way to learn about wind in the mountains is spend some time up them..... Hunting would be as good a excuse as any.;)

Problem with Auckland Vietnamcam is we don't have those beautiful big shingle slope mountains .with a miss you can easily see the strike and make changes .I gotta say im at some months off 50 I am not even slightly as fit as I once was and having one knee and a wobbly joint to much time in the mountains would eventually mean a full knee reconstruction other wise I would come hunting down your way -I am not a hunter but would .
Taking advice from winners is usually a good idea -now winner may just mean someone that I know that shoots well -you see everybody has an opinion and I have mates that eyes just bounce together as they splurge crap but they still think they're correct - you cant take advice from everyone! I shoot shitloads to -so much I'm broke at the moment but not in all the conditions and terrain I would like but that just means more traveling --remember boys if your ever in Auckland I am more than glad to take you plinking , hospitality means a lot to me