Ok looking at Mini14 "A" cat, for quick take down of Fallow deer and possums at 80m to 120m.
Go bigger cal or sufficient cal for the job ???
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Ok looking at Mini14 "A" cat, for quick take down of Fallow deer and possums at 80m to 120m.
Go bigger cal or sufficient cal for the job ???
Good enough cal. I reckon you should consider a bolt rifle. It ll probably be way more accurate . Not saying Mini 14 are not accurate but
I ve seen 223 rifles in bolt action that drill 10 cent pieces all day at 100 + mtrs... Be the same or less coin to get set up..
Get an AR if you want a semi auto
That's sensible, but I've decided I'm going to gave bothQuote:
Originally Posted by Beavis
That's sensible, but I've decided I'm going to have bothQuote:
Originally Posted by Beavis
Hmm I already have bolt action .223, with reasonable scope and suppressor, good for longer shots, but was looking at snap and shoot at close range.
After taking my first deer the other night, with my .223 bolt, I could have easily had both deer, but wasn't quick enough on the reload and finding target again with scope at short range.
My thought was small 2.5x or red dot or just open sights at sort range to get off a couple of good shots, but was concerned that the semi auto may lack stopping power.
My thoughts to the Mini 14 was I did have a M1 30cal carbine many years ago, and found it bloody reliable and good for scrub shooting pigs in Oz.
I believe the gas systems are the same type and not too much goes wrong with them, but have seen on the forums that AR's tend to have issues with the gas blocks ??
I have both an AR and the new model mini 14 with a 2-7 redfield. Have used both for hunting and the AR is defiantly more accurate. But the mini just feels handier in the scrub when hunting and is plenty accurate out to 150m.
Good caliber 223 is great for what you described.
You would be better with an AK or an AR, better parts availability.
Nah no issues with the gas blocks, every gas block gets hot that's just normal.
And of course what Brand AR15, there are so many, what is junk and what isn't ??
A good 99% of "problems" you hear about with AR rifles it nonsense. You can get them for around the same price as a Mini 14 these days. Much better accuracy potential and quicker, smoother follow up shots, cheaper and more available mags etc
Don't get a Chinese made Ranger from Gun City if you want a quality AR. Digit sells a range of models so it would be worth giving him a call as a starting point.
Rugers website list their own AR 556(gas inpingment model) at $750 and their mini 14 at $940.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beavis
If your hearts set on a mini 14 try to get one in 7.62x39 slight overkill on posssums but steps up easily to reds if you need to. As has been said before overkill is underrated.
used a mini 14 for goats culling and took the odd fallow as well....using 55gr hornady sp from Belmont. ....never missed a beat in the 3 hard years I used it.....all shots were inside 100meters
As a former Mini-14 owner, there are things you learn to hate about them - mine being a modern one it shot well enough, 2" groups was the norm but they're not the quietest actions out there, actually, it was like cycling a howitzer...
And don't expect to find any ejected brass, they typically end up somewhere beyond the horizon.
Yep, had a bloke on the range pelting me with brass the other day from one, lobs em up about 4 m high.Quote:
Originally Posted by Monsterbishi
Gota love the garand system, pity they don't reduce the gas hole diameter and drop the brass about a metre away like the ARQuote:
Originally Posted by Nick-D
Is the AR 556 an A cat rifle here and is it available in NZ ???Quote:
Originally Posted by foxhound
The Ruger SR 556(piston driven) is avail in nz limited numbers and I have seen the Ruger SR 762 here too. I haven't seen rugers AR 556(Direct Impingment) model here though. Heres hoping.Quote:
Originally Posted by Natatale
Hmm not that fresh, but I like what I have read about the Ruger AR556 but disappointed that no one really stocks Ruger or appears to be a direct agent, that I'm aware of.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mauser308
Web searching is a waste of time no real leads except the USA and freight plus customs+ rifles cost just doesn't do it for me :(
Just buy one locally. Of what is readily available in the country right now I would recommend - Stag, Spikes or Windham.
GC Ranger or NFA?Quote:
Originally Posted by Beavis
fuck no
I would recommend them if they were advertised at half the price they are.
To think that they used to sell them for 10k at GC
I haven't heard of them, and my understanding is they are bits from all over the world, from companies I have never heard of. So what makes them so good ?? and the price tags are reserved for those who can afford it.
What happened to buying a tool to do the job at reasonable price ?? and I'm not talking Chinese junk either.
I would stick to buying American or the canadaian model(NEA) the Chinese rangers aren't worth the money they are asking. A forum member gundoc gave the ranger a good review with different brands of ammo and got very good accuracy. The finish of them is fairly rough but they do work. Duno the quality of the metals used in them and how they will last over time.
AR's are slowly coming down in price since the panic form two years ago. You can now buy Canadian for around $1600 new & American for around that price as well. Or you could always build? It's cheaper.Quote:
Originally Posted by Natatale
As for your original post; something that you can bring to your shoulder quickly and is compact, buy/build an SBR on the AR platform.
Like this:
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I have one & it's a true pleasure to shoot. Points very well and is comfortable to shoulder quickly.
Ok sound good now just point me to the nearest AR parts supplier in Tauranga :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasquatch
his review was pretty average, it was comparing it to a flogged out 50 year old coltQuote:
Originally Posted by foxhound
Haha no where that close I don't think. But thankfully we live in the digital age, you could buy your AR on the line? ;-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Natatale
Ah ha, I get that but, not everyone has and online store and not everything they sell is good gear. So who do I trust ??Quote:
Originally Posted by Sasquatch
NZAR15.comQuote:
Originally Posted by Natatale
I trust Ken, he's a top bloke and will see you right
Is this ok for an AR15 Double Star AR15 5.56mm | Trade Me ??
I don't know too much about the double stars, have heard they are pretty good. Perhaps someone here has one & could enlighten you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Natatale
Here is a very nice Spikes Tactical carbine, good quality ar's
https://nzar15.com/store/index.php?i...roller=product
Double star is ok. Same as Stag etc.
But how about mini-14. I do like that style and the sound and planning to have one use for some small games and close encounters in bushes next year.
Shoot both and make your mind up, i have had both and sold both my mini14s, AR is much more user friendly and bolt action accuracy.Quote:
Originally Posted by NEO
ARs are cool, but is the AR15 really as accurate as a bolt action? What does we mean with this?
No doubt an AR15 may do 0.5MOA off sandbags / benchrest... but how does it compare with freehand shots off the shoulder with no elbow support?
AR15s, like AKs, are hammer + firing pin setups so have longer lock time (trigger squeeze to ignition interval) than bolt actions. So on an unstable platform I'd not expect them to be able to be shot as accurately as a bolt action of 'equal' accuracy.
