Mossberg mvp 223? Need a replacement for troy pump action, help

Hi current own an troy pump action 223, but look like we gonna hand it back soon, so looking for an alternative, can still use my ten round ar mag, and and my nice 1-6 razor scopes, plus mag pul back up sight, sling, stream light laser light, man I spent a fortune on accessories, need find a similar gun to fit all that.

Look like the choice be mossberg mvp, is it a good rifle? Never shot one before. Is there any other brand rifle we can legally own and fit all my accessories from above? Any advice be great thanks

https://www.alloutdoor.com/2014/08/1...atic-ar15/amp/

Will our country allow some thing like this in the future?

All depends on what our anti-firearm po-po hierarchy decide is evil. Think they have tried to keep their options open for as long as possible just so they cant be subverted.
You see it in aussie when they bring in something that beats their rules.
I wonder if the order in council that taxcinda did for this purpose is kaput. Having to form a new govt an all, maybe that has to be redone?

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Originally Posted by cj0819

https://www.alloutdoor.com/2014/08/1...atic-ar15/amp/

Will our country allow some thing like this in the future?

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Not if any parts are AR15 compatible (if I’ve read the ‘rules’ correctly)

I'm in the same boat, I'm planning on replacing my Troy with a Ruger American Ranch, the lifter tab on the bottom of the Mossberg's bolt puts me off somewhat. Although the Mossberg is better set up for accessories if that's your main concern. It might be worth tracking down a Ruger Precision Rifle in .223, It'll be heavy but have loads of real estate for go fast goodies.

Wasn't someone on this forum talking about modifying the Remington or Troy to a fixed mag set up? What happened to that idea?

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Originally Posted by cj0819

https://www.alloutdoor.com/2014/08/1...atic-ar15/amp/

Will our country allow some thing like this in the future?

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That is a No. The upper is a semi auto upper and in effect makes it semi , stupid as it is .And the lower is capable of attaching to the upper making it no again , irregardless if it is not a semi lower , but then it can be made semi by removing parts . So Bugger.

There are straight pull Vz58 rifles coming in if that floats your boat more than a budget bolt action.

I think there's a shotgun in Aussie that functions in a similar manner, basically semi auto with a restrictor forcing the operator to manually release the bolt catch. The anti-gun crowd anted to get rid of it, but I thought it was still legal. If Australia allows it then something along the lines of this rifle in a version with no semi auto AR compatible parts should be legal. Australia still has appearance laws which we don't have any more, so an AR styled (but non-parts-compatible) rifle should be ok.

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Originally Posted by Beavis

There are straight pull Vz58 rifles coming in if that floats your boat more than a budget bolt action.

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How practical would that be? I can't imagine it would be comfortable to use as the ergonomic essentials for manual reloading and auto reloading firearms are so different.

Video of VZ58 using a similar system halfway through this otherwise very depressing article. I don't like the look of double trigger pulls, seems like an accident waiting to happen.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/police...BPO34FAJAMW4Q/

Just buy one of those marlin dark 45-70 and put an m-lock forend on it then you can put all sorts of things on it

I'm picking the lever release rifles would be prohib on the basis of being "near semi auto"

At what point does a bolt action become "semi semi semi auto"? But yeah they can do what they want by OIC then cofirm it with legislation that with their numbers will inevitably pass.

The gen2 Ruger Ranch rifles take the AR15 mags.
Good little rifles for the money.


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Originally Posted by Ben Waimata

How practical would that be? I can't imagine it would be comfortable to use as the ergonomic essentials for manual reloading and auto reloading firearms are so different.

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@Ben Waimata @Tommy can give you an idea

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Originally Posted by cj0819

https://www.alloutdoor.com/2014/08/1...atic-ar15/amp/

Will our country allow some thing like this in the future?

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The lever release rifle will be fallen under "near semi auto" category just like those pump action rifles did.

@ Ben Waimata

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Originally Posted by Ben Waimata

Video of VZ58 using a similar system halfway through this otherwise very depressing article. I don't like the look of double trigger pulls, seems like an accident waiting to happen.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/police...BPO34FAJAMW4Q/

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That's not how the ones coming in through Aoraki work, they just use the side charging handle. It's pretty quick to operate with non-dominant hand, last round bolt hold open of course, you can have either left hand side or right hand side charging handles, there's a a variety of optics mounting options (@beavis can fill you in there), and it was more accurate than I was expecting (open sights vs 3-4" plates at 100m prone unsupported every time). Threaded 14x1 (not left hand thread either)

Talk of straight pull rifles reminds me of the Troy SAR.
https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/...action-rifles/
(The Kiwi version will probably have an AR style telescoping stock like the PAR did)

I spoke to someone at Gun City and he confirmed they are planning on bringing some in, they should be available around March.
I'm sure Ken at 55six.co.nz will bring some in as well.

This is probably the best bet for those that want to use their AR accessories.

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Originally Posted by Sh00ter

Talk of straight pull rifles reminds me of the Troy SAR.
https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/...action-rifles/
(The Kiwi version will probably have an AR style telescoping stock like the PAR did)

I spoke to someone at Gun City and he confirmed they are planning on bringing some in, they should be available around March.
I'm sure Ken at 55six.co.nz will bring some in as well.

This is probably the best bet for those that want to use their AR accessories.

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Is there any reason why this would be legal if the pump action version is not? I appreciate there is very limited logic in the decisions, but it still looks like something that NZ Govt/Police will want to ban just because they can.

My medium bull MVP223 same as the link below, is an absolute laser

https://www.outdoorlife.com/articles.../mossberg-mvp/

An it is for sale although no rush to sell it... I have stepped up to a 6.5