Thread: NEW EXTREME LONG RANGE RECORD???

Originally Posted by Gillie

Horses for courses.... holding the fore end works well enough for just about any rifle but where the technique excels is with a lighter weight, heavier recoiling rifle and with a rifle that has a less than ridged fore end. The bipod and rear bag technique may not work as well for a lighter weight or less rigid stocked rifle but this technique is significantly steadier and more consistent with a heavier rifle. The bipod and rear bag technique still takes practice to master though as bipod tension and natural point of aim are still important. I see a lot of people that use it because they can hold the rifle steadier but are not proficient with it as they struggle for consistency.

Makes me cringe to see people using bad shooting technique with light rifles, bipods and a rear support resulting in a rifle that bounces all over the place and nearly catching them in the face. Seen a few people do this then look up and ask "Did I hit it?".

One last point, consistently hitting a 2MOA target at 100yards in a shifting mirage/wind is relatively easy. Consistently hitting a 2MOA target at 1000yards in a shifting mirage/wind is not achievable for the vast majority of shooters. At 4500 yards I imagine a 2MOA target looks tiny...

Must be funny with a lab radar (like those Norwegian (?) guys did) to have time to type in the velocity after the shot is fired and tell the shooter he is going to miss before the bullet turns up at the target

"At 4500 yards I imagine a 2MOA target looks tiny... "

At 4500 yards the 2MOA target "Looks" exactly the same size as a 2moa target at 100. It takes up the same portion of our field of vision. If you hold up a 2moa target at 50 yards (very close to half an inch) and place it in the same line of sight so that it appears like it is beside the 4500 yard one then they will both look to be the same size. This is the whole point of angular measurements.

The point I was making was the difficulties in hitting a target at that range are all about where to point the rifle. So for that you have to know all of the effects on the bullet as it travels down range and where it will hit. This takes a far better head for shooting than most are capable of as the further out you go the more calculations you need for the scope adjustments. Once the rifle is dialled correctly for all these variables then hold the cross hair on target and shoot. The resulting group size should then come down to the variables of the shooter. (Presuming that the other variables remain the same) If he is as good a shooter as the video makes him out to be then there is a variable that is changing as hos group size equates to missing a 2inch target at 100m. A lot of this could be with the ammo or the calculations.

Try this for decent shooting instead....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mgt7HnpLqBs

In a 2MOA scenario, his egg would have to be 20.8 inches diameter......