Thread: NZDA requires FAL number

Originally Posted by omark

Sorry but that’s not true. They do far more advocacy for shooters than any group that represents shooters. Their office is located across from parliament for a reason

Maybe you are confusing them with PNZ?

Maybe my perception is wrong.

Did they advocate against the the mass confiscation in 2019?

What about FAL applicants being punished for the police’s mistakes vetting the CHCH murderer by making the process significantly more long winded and difficult?

What about the firearms register?

Originally Posted by Fatberg

Maybe my perception is wrong.

Did they advocate against the the mass confiscation in 2019?

What about FAL applicants being punished for the police’s mistakes vetting the CHCH murderer by making the process significantly more long winded and difficult?

What about the firearms register?

Goodness me

https://www.deerstalkers.org.nz/reso...cacy-overview/

Originally Posted by Kiwi Greg

Goodness me

https://www.deerstalkers.org.nz/reso...cacy-overview/

Goodness me. This link proves what? A bit of lip service skirting around the edges at best.

Originally Posted by Fatberg

Maybe my perception is wrong.

Did they advocate against the the mass confiscation in 2019?

What about FAL applicants being punished for the police’s mistakes vetting the CHCH murderer by making the process significantly more long winded and difficult?

What about the firearms register?

Join. Find out. Participate. Make them stronger. Put your energy into something positive.

Originally Posted by Tahr

Join. Find out. Participate. Make them stronger. Put your energy into something positive.

I am a member. Hence my comments.

Cheers for the snarky reply, perhaps you could contribute something positive to the conversation yourself then.

Originally Posted by Fatberg

I am a member. Hence my comments.

Cheers for the snarky reply, perhaps you could contribute something positive to the conversation yourself then.

Then you ought to know these things.

Originally Posted by Tahr

Then you ought to know these things.

My observation is that they are afraid of rocking the boat too much, that their focus is on complying with every new bit of regulation that gets dreamed up, and that if they actually oppose anything it's completely ineffective.

I'm happy to be proved wrong if it's my perception that is off.

Originally Posted by Fatberg

My observation is that they are afraid of rocking the boat too much, that their focus is on complying with every new bit of regulation that gets dreamed up, and that if they actually oppose anything it's completely ineffective.

I'm happy to be proved wrong if it's my perception that is off.

If you are ever in Wellington go and meet them at National office. You will find that the CEO is a very highly qualified and respected lawyer. Could by earning many times more than what he is for nzda but is doing this because he loves our sport. They are well resourced with research assistance and are constantly lobbying for and defending our sport. There is a fabulous museum and display of heads there too. The whole thing is professional and forward looking. The one thing lacking is us 100% supporting them. And it wont happen if people keep pulling them down.

Maybe they need to look at ways to better communicate what they do.

Originally Posted by Tahr

If you are ever in Wellington go and meet them at National office. You will find that the CEO is a very highly qualified and respected lawyer. Could by earning many times more than what he is for nzda but is doing this because he loves our sport. They are well resourced with research assistance and are constantly lobbying for and defending our sport. There is a fabulous museum and display of heads there too. The whole thing is professional and forward looking. The one thing lacking is us 100% supporting them. And it wont happen if people keep pulling them down.

Maybe they need to look at ways to better communicate what they do.

Next time I'm there I will go for a look. I don't dispute their good intentions.
I do support the NZDA by paying whatever the membership is each year, going to the club night each month and talking to newbies to try make them feel welcome, going on party hunts etc.
On a personal level I really like the guys who run my local club. Highlighting some of the issues I see doesn't mean I don't support the NZDA.