Thread: NZDA requires FAL number

Originally Posted by longshot

They had to draw a line somewhere if not wanting to list every single indiscretion that isn’t allowed. Otherwise there would be much more paper to carry with more writing that wouldn’t be read. I am going to go out on a limb here and suggest that the omission is a legacy issue from a time when permit holders were credited with the posession of common sense, insight and a degree of judgement, when it was not considered necessary to explicitly state the fact.

Conservation Act
Every person commits an offence against this Act who, knowingly and without a permit in that behalf issued under subsection (1) or section 26ZZH, or knowingly and otherwise than in compliance with any conditions subject to which such a permit has been issued,—
(a)
discharges any hunting weapon on, into, or over any conservation area;

so the permit is for hunting not target shooting
this may be the most relavant

Originally Posted by Barry the hunter

Conservation Act
Every person commits an offence against this Act who, knowingly and without a permit in that behalf issued under subsection (1) or section 26ZZH, or knowingly and otherwise than in compliance with any conditions subject to which such a permit has been issued,—
(a)
discharges any hunting weapon on, into, or over any conservation area;

so the permit is for hunting not target shooting
this may be the most relavant

Those rules appear to be for a conservation area, if you read the rest of the rules, no killing of any animal. ( ironically includes poisoning)

Every person commits an offence against this Act who, knowingly and without a permit in that behalf issued under subsection (1) or section 26ZZH, or knowingly and otherwise than in compliance with any conditions subject to which such a permit has been issued,—
(a)
discharges any hunting weapon on, into, or over any conservation area; or
(b)
molests or pursues any animal in a conservation area; or
(c)
captures, kills, poisons, tranquillises, traps, or immobilises by any means, any animal in a conservation area; or
(d)
has in possession in any conservation area any animal or animal product; or
(e)
whether or not any animal or animal product is taken, takes or uses in or over any conservation area any aircraft, dog, hunting weapon, net, trap, poison, ship, snare, or vehicle, for the purpose of molesting, pursuing, capturing, killing, poisoning, tranquillising, trapping, or immobilising, by any means, any animal; or
(f)
takes any animal product in a conservation area; or
(g)
whether or not any animal product is taken, takes or uses in or over any conservation area any aircraft, dog, net, trap, ship, or vehicle, for the purpose of taking any animal product; or
(h)
enters any conservation area with a hunting weapon, net, trap, or snare, or with poison; or
(i)
sets any net, trap, or snare, on any conservation area; or
(j)
allows any animal to molest, pursue, or kill, any animal, in a conservation area.

Originally Posted by Bush Basher

Those rules appear to be for a conservation area, if you read the rest of the rules, no killing of any animal. ( ironically includes poisoning)

Every person commits an offence against this Act who, knowingly and without a permit in that behalf issued under subsection (1) or section 26ZZH, or knowingly and otherwise than in compliance with any conditions subject to which such a permit has been issued,—
(a)
discharges any hunting weapon on, into, or over any conservation area; or
(b)
molests or pursues any animal in a conservation area; or
(c)
captures, kills, poisons, tranquillises, traps, or immobilises by any means, any animal in a conservation area; or
(d)
has in possession in any conservation area any animal or animal product; or
(e)
whether or not any animal or animal product is taken, takes or uses in or over any conservation area any aircraft, dog, hunting weapon, net, trap, poison, ship, snare, or vehicle, for the purpose of molesting, pursuing, capturing, killing, poisoning, tranquillising, trapping, or immobilising, by any means, any animal; or
(f)
takes any animal product in a conservation area; or
(g)
whether or not any animal product is taken, takes or uses in or over any conservation area any aircraft, dog, net, trap, ship, or vehicle, for the purpose of taking any animal product; or
(h)
enters any conservation area with a hunting weapon, net, trap, or snare, or with poison; or
(i)
sets any net, trap, or snare, on any conservation area; or
(j)
allows any animal to molest, pursue, or kill, any animal, in a conservation area.

what this section is saying is you can do those things mentioned if you have a permit - if no permit it is then illegal under the act - it looks to me like to use the DOC Range one needs a open permit - DOC are then giving you permission and have issued a notice ( pictured ) which will form part of that permission i.e the conditions of use -but have no doubt it is specific to that range - these sections of Conservation act above cover all of DOC as many older acts are bound to it

I am going to sign of this one - going round and round- it certainly seems to me now after some research that permission legally should be sought to be absolutely sure if zeroing on DOC land

Furthermore to my last post I have just been talking to security firm which manages Onefortyone forest hunting. Their opinion is that as long as firing zones and safety considered and common sense exercised they have no issue with checking where your rifles shooting. Just not full on load development etc. Like I’ve stated previously check with local management. Don’t make it hard for yourself and don’t be so fecking paranoid, not all authorities are out to get you even though it feels like it at times. I’ve found it easier to work in with them ( management, authorities ), as I have to on a weekly basis.