so back to your origonal ???2nd ??? question...what will be good sub 200 load for reds with a bit of scrub maybe in way......... Stug and myself have both said it in similar way...big fat heavy round nose/soft nose with heaps of lead at tip....the 180grn hornady in .308 has impressed as do 180 winchester factory big time... in .270 the 150-170 grn tick boxes for me,cant see 7mm being any different. if you are going to load it hot it will boot and will need harder pills to hold together...if not loading it hot (and sub 200yards why bother?) something softer would be great......thus my 7x57 comment...but you already know that owning a 7mm-08
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