For us of the younger generation that are used to the "plastic" gun range, could someone enlighten us as to why these rifles would be nicer/better?
Not taking the piss or anything.
I haven't used either of them before.
I recently scored myself a Bruno in 243. Nice piece of kit, just gotta find a weight and brand of round it likes now
Ya can't park there mate.
Just sold my zkk243, great gun must have accounted for at least 1k of deer never missed a beat, using a bsa cf2 270 at the moment, great gun
go to JBM and use their sabillity calculator. i have 1:10 and found barnes 85gr tsx dont like the 1:10 just working in the hornady gmx which looks very promising, have some 105 A Max on the way which will be interesting to try.
With a 1 in 10 243 ,this is definite with a BRNO, it will stabilise all projectiles (except the Barnes types) up to 100 gr Flat base .There is an exception with the Targetz projectiles.
My BRNO just loves the 87 gr Bthp .
There is a couple of aspects to the why old brnos\PH are better than plastic fantastic's question. One is design as both of these rifles use a mauser type action. This is one of the stonger actions ever designed with a extra rear lug as well as the two front lugs and good gas control if a case ruptures. They are also a controlled feed rather than a push feed action which has certain advantages. Modern actions skip most of these features mainly because it's harder\more expensive to manufacture.
There is also the fact that metallurgy has changed over the years. In years past when they didn't have fancy alloys they used to use case hardening. This results in a bolt with a soft core but a very hard skin. As well as being very strong this also meant that the two hardened surfaces (hardened bolt and action) had very little friction and feels as smooth as glass. Handling a WWII mauser action will show this immediate difference.
A modern mauser would cost something like 5k to make today.
I love the sound of these actions when you cycle them, can't beat it. Goatcommander sorry to wander off topic but are you running any dogs these days?
So I stuffed up majorly not grabbing a PH in .30-06 for $300? Haha.
Distantstalker dont worry i love a good spot of gun talk nowa days makes me jaw go all skatty. A
Lot of stuff that is been said on this thread is all very true.
And no im not running any dogs. But i do have a pet goat that ive been training up believe it or not. now lets be honest i know its not going to be a holder. But if she bails n sniffs a mob out for me or calks a few billys in, then mate.. im a happy man.
Shes not gun shy but her fitness is a big issue im working on. shes a bit bloody lazy. Loves the comfort of my mountain mule. keeps me fit carrying her round like that tho.. i kick her out tho when its time to get our stalk on haha. Na shes a bloody good goat mate
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