Hi fellaz i am thinking about a new rifle. I was wondering what you fellaz think about parker hale safari dulux or brno zkk thanks
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Hi fellaz i am thinking about a new rifle. I was wondering what you fellaz think about parker hale safari dulux or brno zkk thanks
Goatcommander
BRNO ZKK all day long ........... but then I'm biased as I've owned these rifles for a few decades now.
That said the Parker hale safari deluxe are very nice rifles.
It's going to be a hard choice.
Choose the one that fits you best and meets all your requirements.
Cheers
Pete
My dad sold his PH safari delux and bought a BRNO.
who's going to tell goatcommander to buy a Tikka T3 in 7mm08??. ahahaha. I am a Parker Hale fan, but if they are both in good knick, I would get the Brno
I am looking to sell my brno in 308 if you are interested. PM me if you want more info.
They're both equally shit
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Originally Posted by Toby
Shut up toby 😝
Really Toby?Quote:
Originally Posted by Toby
HahahahahaQuote:
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Tell us how you would know this Toby?
Cheers
Pete
he read it on the internet :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by P38
Just pulling ya tits you old bastards!
I have used a brno .270 and have used a parkerhale .270 too (silly farming mates and their .270's...), no idea what models but I never thought "wow what a gun" to be honest.
Depends what you used it for @Toby ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Toby
The BRNO ZKK is so purdy you'd be plain stupid to pass one up. :cool:
Cheers
Pete
Shot some goats with the brno and got a deer with the parkerhale :)
You might not beleive this dave but someone actually tried.. i have nothing to do with that person anymore.Quote:
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cheers dave m!
Hi massiveattack yes i could be keen. Could you private message me? sorry i couldnt figure out how to send a private message. Cheers mate much appreciatedQuote:
Originally Posted by MassiveAttack
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Originally Posted by goatcommander
Bloody heathen :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Toby
For us of the younger generation that are used to the "plastic" gun range, could someone enlighten us as to why these rifles would be nicer/better?
Not taking the piss or anything.
I haven't used either of them before.
they were made Before everything went and got made in china.Nothing but pure european quility. No cutting corners. When u pick up a rifle of the sorts you can tell it was made with blood sweat and tears, just by handling it.Quote:
Originally Posted by William
I recently scored myself a Bruno in 243. Nice piece of kit, just gotta find a weight and brand of round it likes now
Exactly and they have character or a sole if you will, which is sadly lacking in a plastic fantastic.Quote:
Originally Posted by goatcommander
Just sold my zkk243, great gun must have accounted for at least 1k of deer never missed a beat, using a bsa cf2 270 at the moment, great gun
go to JBM and use their sabillity calculator. i have 1:10 and found barnes 85gr tsx dont like the 1:10 just working in the hornady gmx which looks very promising, have some 105 A Max on the way which will be interesting to try.Quote:
Originally Posted by kidmac42
With a 1 in 10 243 ,this is definite with a BRNO, it will stabilise all projectiles (except the Barnes types) up to 100 gr Flat base .There is an exception with the Targetz projectiles.
My BRNO just loves the 87 gr Bthp .
Reload for this beauty.Quote:
Originally Posted by kidmac42
AR2209, 87gr Hornady BTSP, Muzzel velocity 2900fps.
You'll shoot the arse off a gnat at a hundy.
Cheers
Pete
There is a couple of aspects to the why old brnos\PH are better than plastic fantastic's question. One is design as both of these rifles use a mauser type action. This is one of the stonger actions ever designed with a extra rear lug as well as the two front lugs and good gas control if a case ruptures. They are also a controlled feed rather than a push feed action which has certain advantages. Modern actions skip most of these features mainly because it's harder\more expensive to manufacture.
There is also the fact that metallurgy has changed over the years. In years past when they didn't have fancy alloys they used to use case hardening. This results in a bolt with a soft core but a very hard skin. As well as being very strong this also meant that the two hardened surfaces (hardened bolt and action) had very little friction and feels as smooth as glass. Handling a WWII mauser action will show this immediate difference.
A modern mauser would cost something like 5k to make today.
I love the sound of these actions when you cycle them, can't beat it. Goatcommander sorry to wander off topic but are you running any dogs these days?
I like the old husqvarna also
So I stuffed up majorly not grabbing a PH in .30-06 for $300? Haha.
Distantstalker dont worry i love a good spot of gun talk nowa days makes me jaw go all skatty. A
Lot of stuff that is been said on this thread is all very true.
And no im not running any dogs. But i do have a pet goat that ive been training up believe it or not. now lets be honest i know its not going to be a holder. But if she bails n sniffs a mob out for me or calks a few billys in, then mate.. im a happy man.
Shes not gun shy but her fitness is a big issue im working on. shes a bit bloody lazy. Loves the comfort of my mountain mule. keeps me fit carrying her round like that tho.. i kick her out tho when its time to get our stalk on haha. Na shes a bloody good goat mate
r u running dogs distant stalker? yeh love my swedish mausers also mate. Currently got a stiga m96 3006
and yeh mate a ph for 300bux any one would think you had taking the delorean out for a spin back to 1970 for that price mate bloody good price
Got a vizsla and a viz/lab/something that's just moving into retirement. We had a goat that spent its younger years with the dogs and brought the sheep up from the back paddock for us. Pretty hard case. No bark so relied on its horns to get them moving which wasn't always ideal...
Haha yeh they have great personalitys. And theyl eat what ever you dont want them to. Is your viz pretty good on deer is it?
He hasn't been out on them much lately but does really well, good on goats too. Have had him on goats, chamois, tahr, deer and birds. Changes style to suit the hunt quite easily just gets cold if we sit around too long , more of an active worker
Yep.Quote:
Originally Posted by JRW87
That would have been in my safe for that price.
I paid $600 for a mint BRNO ZKK 601 in .308 all scoped up with ammo, brass, projectiles powder and dies a couple of years ago.
Was all I could do to stop grinning from ear to ear while I was paying the man.
Cheers
Pete
he can read?Quote:
Originally Posted by veitnamcam
Brno any day. Have a soft spot for the small action brno fox, owned many, still have one. Don't make em like they used to!
My second rifle was a PH Safari 30.06 - but I got sick of the timber under the barrel warping when it got wet - but I guess there are dud pieces of timber in any brand of rifle
I upgraded to a Bruno 270 and still use it on reds - the set trigger is superb for longer shots - adjust it to however sensitive you desire - touch it and rarely miss
If you buy Bruno make sure you get one with a set trigger :thumbsup:
But hard to go past a Tikka T3 goatcommander - I love mine in 243 for fallow
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