Thread: Practising Mag Changes

My mate took this video this morning to help me with my mag changes.

According to the clock my mag changes are taking way too long.

Turn, draw and first shot is currently taking less time than my mag changes.

Even though I fu*cked it up ........ yet again ......... The clock said the total time was a shade over 10secs.

Without doing anything other than nailing the mag change I believe I can shave 2 seconds off that time.

Anyway here it is in slow motion for all to see.


Cheers
Pete

I am no expert by any means but I setup 3 ipsc targets at 10m and with at leat 3m spacing. I load 3 in each mag.

Draw and engage first target drop mag engage second and so on.
I am heaps faster with my Bul and Para than the shadow. Most likely because they have a flared mag well and I am not being so deliberate.
I will time it next time I get up the range with my shadow.
Its all constructive practice in the end.

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can you reach the mag release with your right thumb pete? ... i had to get the extended mag release on my glock so i could easily get to it , or do you prefer to use you off hand to press it ?

A couple of comments that may help you.
- Try pushing the mag button with your right hand thumb, not your left hand. Roll the gun in your palm so you can reach it. While you are hitting the button your other hand is already getting or has the next mag.
- Bring the gun up closer to your face, right in front of you (So you can see what you are doing), tilt the pistol on its side you can see the mag well.
- Hold the mag so your left hand index finger is resting just below the first couple of rounds (Think how you point at things) and use your palm of your left hand to push the mag home once the mag is started in the mag well.

Good luck.

Yep

I had 3 IPSC targets @ 7m for this practise.

Started out the day Draw, One Shot, mag change, one shot, mag change, one shot, reload mags and repeat

Did this for an hour or so with some good results but then lost it when we went to an El Presidente drill.

But will continue to practise the mag changes.

Cheers
Pete

Originally Posted by stumpy

can you reach the mag release with your right thumb pete? ... i had to get the extended mag release on my glock so i could easily get to it , or do you prefer to use you off hand to press it ?

@stumpy

Yes having troubles reaching the mag release with my right hand thumb but don't want to change the gun at this stage.

Main trouble is loosing focus on what I'm doing .......... over thinking it I think.

Cheers
Pete

I do as Simon says😆

But I don't tilt the gun or bring it in very far.
I try to remain on target or load moving onto target.

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Originally Posted by Simon

A couple of comments that may help you.
- Try pushing the mag button with your right hand thumb, not your left hand. Roll the gun in your palm so you can reach it. While you are hitting the button your other hand is already getting or has the next mag.
- Bring the gun up closer to your face, right in front of you (So you can see what you are doing), tilt the pistol on its side you can see the mag well.
- Hold the mag so your left hand index finger is resting just below the first couple of rounds (Think how you point at things) and use your palm of your left hand to push the mag home once the mag is started in the mag well.

Good luck.

@Simon

Thanks that's very good advise.

Every little bit helps.

I'll practice that this week.

I'm in Hamilton on Wednesday and hope to continue the practise on a range there.

Cheers
Pete

Matt burkett has good advice on mag changes, youtube him. The pause he describes as you get the mag to the magwell does wonders to helping breakdown the technique and also seems to speed the whole thing up.

P38.
Practice doing it slowly and the speed will come.
Just start with one target at 10 meters.
Draw, 2 shots, reload, 2 shots, reload till you run out of mag's. Repeat. Make sure you are hitting the A Zone.
When doing mag changes in a match, do the change while stationary (Or near to it) at the end of a string then RUN, FAST with the gun held up high right in front of your face then just push out to engage the next target. Its faster doing this than trying to mag change on the move especially when you are still learning.

Originally Posted by P38

@Simon

Thanks that's very good advise.

Every little bit helps.

I'll practice that this week.

I'm in Hamilton on Wednesday and hope to continue the practise on a range there.

Cheers
Pete

I am down at the club most weekends.
PM me if you are around in the weekend and I will try and meet you down there.
May be able to help you some.

Simon

Thanks for the offer

I'm mostly in Hamilton weekdays for work.

Try to visit the Hamilton PC whenever I can.

Cheers
Pete

All of what simon says ( except the finger following the mag, just does not help me at all. Base plate in palm of hand when getting from belt, and finger on side of mag going up, not front - its a just me thing...and i'm often wrong...)

Got to sort the right hand thumb to get to the release though. Whats the issue with doing it? Short thumb, to fat grips, or heaven forbid the wrong gun for you?

I'd be interested to see where your left thumb is with your grip, the shadow has a pretty damn good mag release so you should be able to easily reach it with your right thumb.
Definitely roll your gun and pull into your face like Simon says, it will also help you put more pressure or reach on the mag release. And you shouldn't need to keep the gun on target because if you're planning your stages right you'll only mag change while between targets.
Lay your index finger right down the front edge of the mag and you'll never miss the magwell.
I practise all my mag changes at home with Mags full of dummy rounds, saves on ammo and you can do 100's of practise runs in less time

Thanks for all the advise guys.

Yes been practising at home too.

Biggest issue is repeatability.

Rolling the gun has helped heaps.

The practise continues.

Cheers
Pete