Thread: Precision shooting recoil/point of aim

Originally Posted by Oli1102

Note that the first video is using a sled a rear support, rather than a bag (which will have movement and compress under recoil) so having slightly larger reticle movement during/after recoil in comparison should be expected.

However, from my understanding (listening to Modern Day Sniper Podcast etc.) you shouldn't be seeing significant left or right movement as that comes from angles in your shooting position (e.g. body not straight behind the rifle, one shoulder or elbow forward of the other. They talk about your second sight picture (sight picture after recoil) should keep the target within your field of view, so Piet in the second video looks like he is doing a good job.

I guess this is where expeience comes in. Personally I am still working on my fundamentals and combating bipod jump and find that often my sight picture is off by more like 5-7mils and sometimes only just within my field of view (depending on magnification). I know i struggle at the moment with getting my body aligned so that likely has a significant impact on the position of that second sight picture. Basically saying compare apples with apples... checkout Phil Velayo (@velayo_0317) on instagram, he is a top level shooter (and one of the hosts on Modern Day Sniper Podcast) and has some Phoneskope videos on instagram, that may give you a good baseline.

Wow, thank you very much sir by sharing so much info.

Are you saying because Mark(1st video) is using a more steady rear support than Piet(2nd video), it would help to reduce the movement where Marks see through the scope, which he claims within 2MOA? That makes sense to me. I've seen quite a lot of F-class shooters having similar rear support setup instead of a hand hold bag.

Will definitely check the podcast you mentioned. Not sure if you have watched these videos or not, this is where I have better understanding to Recoil. Unforunately, he doesn't have a scope camera like Piet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whVH-FaZyQs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fciKcjGKs84
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKSd31KSI88

And Phillip Velayo also gives a really good demostration
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5hvm1tbDyg

I am learning the fundamentals of marksmanship as well and try to minimize the muzzle/bipod jump, recoil impact to the accuracy. From my experience, the best I can do is about 3-4mils at about 18x magnification and I still can see the target. After I watched Mark's video, I thought, damn, there must be something wrong with either me or my rifle setup.

Thank you again to share your experience.