He's old school mate, would probably get his long hair caught on a turret if he even knew where to find it ;) :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Larskramer
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He's old school mate, would probably get his long hair caught on a turret if he even knew where to find it ;) :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Larskramer
because if you KNOW its 300 and you KNOW your bullet will be 2" low..the placement of Xhair is academic.... and it will save you time...and the relevance to this thread/situation....it would be one less thing that could be reason you missed by either 10" low or 10" high asuming deer had 20" chest...Quote:
Originally Posted by Larskramer
but to each thier own.
Im asuming you were aiming chest/centre shoulder when you missed 3 times????? thats a big error ...caused by "something" if you can narrow down the "somethings" it might make life more simple.......Im a simple fella and like things to be simple LOL.point and shoot.
and Gibo.......my beard is the longest bit of hair Ive got left......havent had long hair since my highschool mullet and that was a right bitch for getting under rubber buttplate and getting yanked LOL. what are these turret things you talk about???
What about your body position when you missed, were you comfortable/setup the same as your other hits?
absolutly. wouldnt take a shot if not feeling it.Quote:
Originally Posted by charliehorse
https://www.nzhuntingandshooting.co.nz/f15/dum-86976/
all the obvious causes listed in here just incase its a hidden obvious cause
Dont rule out someone being smartass and playing with scope -we had a fuckwit in camp Southern Te Urewera who thought it bloody clever to give ya scope a good wind if ya were not looking - took awhile to work out what the hell was going on - Boss gave him the talk around the road out and being not suitable - stopped
If you are sure it’s not shooter error then it has to be a zero shift.
If your thinking about blaming the powder for a change in velocity what do you reckon the worst case scenario would be?
+\- 50fps?
That wouldn’t make too much difference at 300yards. Put it in you ballistic calculator to see.
iv also had a different situation where the recticle inside the scope came loose so give things a good shake to see if anything is loose
most of the time its just loose bolts or screws
i have no idea lol hence why i have asked lolQuote:
Originally Posted by SPEARONZ
Very strange indeed to completely miss 3 times at 300 yards, when it had all been bang on. I don't think powder temp or seating depth change would make enough difference to clean miss at just 300 yards, I think you are looking at something more physical, scope, scope mounts, action screws etc.
It'll be interesting to see what you find at the range
Any damage to the crown or suppressor? That could explain a sudden change if everything else has checked out fine.
If the story is as you say I find it hard to believe you could possibly *bump* the scope out of alignment considering the quality of scope and rifle.
It's either you aren't a very good shot or you have had a suppressor failure/strike imo.
As I say, if the story is like it's written....
Or.... you weren't happening to be spotlighting or night shooting? Very easy to assume misses at night depending on terrain. It has happened to me very recentlyQuote:
Originally Posted by PerazziSC3
Over the years I have heard multiple times about a scope staying zeroed after a heavy fall, but a slight bump causing major issues.
Are the turrets tight? I'm not familiar with your scope, but the Loopy CDS ones are only attached by a few grub screws so could possibly turn the turret without actually adjusting scope - your scope could still be set for your 467m shot.
But the first question should be....are you sure you missed?
100% missed, no pop, deer ran up hill each time without any problems. Have checked the zero stop, all seems well, will check suppressor but don't think I have had any impact on it.
now here is a suggestion for you...actually for all of you.
when your rifle is sighted in...to your desired ZERO.... put the plurry colimeter/boresighter back on wiggle it around till it settled in place and WRITE DOWN where its now pointing...it doesnt matter a shit if its 3 squares left and 2 up....thats your zero.
in future if you have doubt you slip it on and have a squiz.
you can even swap scopes and retain your zero.....near enough for sub 300yrd close enough anyway...as said earlier,assuming deer had 20" chest...you missed by 10" either way at 300 yards so out by at least 3" at hundy......that will show up like pooh stain on Nanas rug.
you dont need to go to range to check scope is dialing right either...you can watch it do its thing....
Some of us don't use fancy pants super flash harry colimeter contraptions totally unnecessary gear snob kinda kit......we just shoot paper like men did back in the old days :yaeh am not durnk: sorry MD couldn't resist :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Micky Duck
yeah but its plurry handy bit of kit to have when something like this has happened...... did you want one???I happen to have two LOL.
I'm hanging out for the result of the trip to the range
Me too!Quote:
Originally Posted by 7mm Rem Mag
What they said, although yesterday wasn't a stellar range day.Quote:
Originally Posted by ANTSMAN
If the scope has lost its zero I wouldn't trust it again and would send back for a refund
Bit of shit stuck under the barrel from last hunt? pull it down & give it a clean. While you are at it, decarbon the barrel with some CLR as 7Saum & RL26 a great ring maker according to other users.
My 260imp & 26 carbon up after a few & can notice a pressure spike happening [emoji16]
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Can do the same thing with a simple boresight, can even do it on the hill if someone suspects they are a turn out on their turret.Quote:
Originally Posted by Micky Duck
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Originally Posted by Mathias
I agree, and always do haha
Oil ring maybe. Doesnt take much. Sliding your finger down the outside of the barrel might tell a story . . .
the suspense -- my bet is the scope -possibly incorrect settings - or failure of internals - why most other stuff would be pretty obvious - cant see a whole series of clean misses (but) -some of what has been said likely only minimal impact on zero soooQuote:
Originally Posted by ANTSMAN
It is equipment failure without a doubt
A 300 yard shot on a deer shoulder is a chip shot.
If it helps I have an unopened bottle of RL 26 that I will trade for a Bentley Turbo R, so long as the Bentley comes with a 10 yr warranty..
love nz hunters for ever hopefullQuote:
Originally Posted by jakewire
we have waited in suspense - no response - ya missed dint yaQuote:
Originally Posted by jakewire
Nah, haven't been out yet. Had some other priority rifles to sort out in the time I had spare. This will be done this weekend weather pending as my sika foundation cull trip was canned :(
Can you do a decent bore sight from your house? Setup rifle on a bench/table with stable rest on butt end and find something roughly 4 inches at 100 yards. Tree knot or the likes. If you’re good at it, you’ll be within A4 paper at a 100. Be a quick and easy check before even going to the range.Quote:
Originally Posted by Larskramer
We’re all waiting……:thumbsup:
When I lived in the US I had access to a 1000 acre property with a nice cleared ride for an electricity line. I shot my .300WM twice there at 500 yards, once in warm weather (about 26C from memory), and once at -6C. Difference in drop between the days was 19 inches, which would be a complete miss. RE22 powder, which is very temp sensitive, if anyone is interested.
Temp could be your problem, but if not the only one, will have played a part.
yeah mate, have done this. I usually bore sight at 100m before trying to zero a rifle. takes out alot of un necessary roundsQuote:
Originally Posted by McNotty
So you’ve done it after this issue arose? If you’re missing at 300 and it was a scope issue, you’d pick it up straight away by doing this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Larskramer
thats what i thought as a whole revolution out whould be wellllll off target. unless it isnt tracking properly.Quote:
Originally Posted by McNotty
Took the rifle to the range today, had some fresh loads loaded up. Shooting all over the place at 100m. Eg 2inch groups.... will check crown tomorrow and throw a bore scope up it as it only started playing up after I had taken it home and cleaned the heck out of it.
Would've thought a 2" group should still be dead deer at 300y :ORLY:
recheck them scope base screws and action screws etc while you are at it...bizare its turned to poohs on you...you didnt take action apart perchance???