rossi single shot 223

so i bought this off another member ..... put a scope on it and took it to the range on thursday morning and put a few rounds thru it
previous owner mentioned best he could do was 3" groups with the red dot.
so was being realistic in my expectations.
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reasonably happy with it , 3rd shot seems to be a flyer has been suggested to me that being a cheap single shot and the way the forend is mounted to the barrel may be the issue when it warms up or maybe when it warms up it reacts different to the pressures in the "breech" (something that wouldnt be an issue in a half decent bolt action ........ i did say to a mate if i need a third shot then maybe i should give up hunting...... so my thoughts are only do 2 shot groups and maybe try a different flavour ammo in it till i start reloading for it........any other words of wisdom?

should add the the high and low outliers were done setting the elevation and i adjusted to the right after the first group. still wants to come up an inch but i need to get a new rail for it as i had to put a shim under the back to get enough adjustment out of the scope

I think your results are okay, given it's the first ammo you tested.

Some of those Rossi's are very sensitive to the tension of the fore-end screw, experimenting with this might improve groups. Or not.

Definitely try a few different ammo types. PMC Bronze and other cheap brands like PPU, Barnaul, Hunting&Fishing, Frontier etc may not give the best accuracy.

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Originally Posted by rockland

Definitely try a few different ammo types. PMC Bronze and other cheap brands like PPU, Barnaul, Hunting&Fishing, Frontier etc may not give the best accuracy.

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struggling to find anything else on the shelf 55gr and lighter. in upper waikato .......... road trip up to GC auckland is becoming unavoidable

Try holding the metal of the action instead of the forestock next time at the range, works for some singles. Also Ron has one in .308 so will know what works.

will do .... will also button off the front screw half a turn (i may have over tightened it on the rubber O ring)

Hi Scotty
Good luck in your progress to get the Rossi 223 to shoot consistent
im asking if all the usual questions have been delt with like how well it locks up [any slop when this is done ]
scope and rail all set tight , crown true and is there a suppressor included -is this true etc
Ammo also plays a big part [some barrels just like different ammo ] -what twist is your barrel
Cheers

Have approx. 12 rounds of 55 gr Nosler solid base factory loaded, can get to you thru the previous discussed system.

Ive had a few h&r handis. Still got 1 they can be a bit sensative to how you rest the fore end

Hi Scotty... what distance was the target shot at? What twist is the Rossi - 1:12?

Sounds like you're not reloading? Some handloads in different weight bullets and with different powders may make a diff. Bound to be a reloading member close to you. I'd be happy to do some but don't go thru the Waikato that often

I have one in 308 can get 1" groups with handloads with 44gr of 2208 and 150gr nosler ballistic tips

Hey, will try and answer all in one hit..... It is suppressed,no it's not sloppy , 100m range, will start reloading when I get some dies and small rifle primers, scope and base is secure but I had to shim the base to get Enuff adjustment in elevation so will be getting a better base. @tetawa yes please I will pm my # as I can't remember if I already gave you it oh and 1-12 twist, crowlooks ok . Think that everything

Hey Mate
i never seen a MOA rail for a Rossi ,, but a good guy on the tools could mod yours
or you could get those moa rings that let you do the same job
what scope are you running and what distance where you working on for those long shots .
cheers

The base on it gets thinner toward the rear I turned it round and had the same problem but in opposite direction so I put a 1 mm shim under it just so I could test fire it so I will replace it . Weaver 92A so will just get the local guy to get one in. The scope is an older Japanese Bushnell trophy which I can dial out to 600 (not that I will ever be doing that , I see 200-250 as the end goal max

Looks ok to me.I just use mine for a100m rifle.
I bedded the front couple of inches of mine and around the barrel screw.
Taken plenty of scalps.

Mine is minute of goat any day of the week - although I did polish the trigger internals to assist the trigger pull

couple of really easy/simple things to try/check before you get frustrated....recheck that rail is tight and no movement,recheck the rings to rail is tight,no movement.... try couple of shots minus suppressor..just to rule it out of equasion.... as 7mm mag said... hold forend firmly and then try holding the action metal behind it instead..thats how Ron used to range shoot with the BLR to good effect.
I can shoot OK with my single 222 but do find I need to concentrate on getting it right..more so than with heavier rifle.
check the buttstock isnt moving in relation to action too..usually a long screw located under buttplate up hole through buttstock...
funny thing about the 223s...unless trying some way out there bullet weight thats completely wrong for rifles twist..the yall seem to shoot pretty jolly well...so surprised you have a 55grn load thats not....

as mentioned earlier i had to shim the rear of the rail just to get enuff adjustment out of the elevation..... was in at GC on tuesday and they said "yes we have a rail in stock" , drags it out but its off a puma lever action but looks the same as what i have at the mo, so that there is the first issue to remedy before anything else ......i think the first 2 shots were ok just the third is a bit wayward so like i said to sammy if i need a third shot i shouldnt be hunting ......being a budget single shot hunting tool as long as the first is good and the second then i can live with that i have got some different ammo to try so will report back when i have the next set of results.

Mine never shot better than 2". Still shot a few deer, pigs and goats with it. Ended up cutting it down so I could break it down and put it in a pack, was bloody handy.

ok update time fitted a new rail and torqued everything down. gc @tetawa gave me some reloads to try (55gr noslers and 55gr molys ) and i picked up some hornady critical defense (selection is still pretty thin on the ground round here).
sticking with 2 shot groups cos if i need more then i should just put the rifle away and get the camera out.
after a bit of dickin around getting the scope adjusted im happy with placement of the noslers (tetawa put a little note in with them "good on deer)
the molys shoot low and felt like a light load (less kick) the hornadys shot a little high and to the left will remember this for longer shots.
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next step? get some dies and components and see if i can get some consistency