Thread: Shooting: The sport all of us enjoy - do your part in preserving the ability to do so

Originally Posted by Krameranzac

Anyone from Napier? Here is your MP's response to the select committee report. Someone needs to educate him.

https://kiwigunblog.wordpress.com/20...nash-responds/

So he's just regurgitated standard chardonnay socialist " we know better than you silly peasants" shit then.

RE: complaint against Police associate president Chris Cahill

On the 11 April broadcast of the TVNZ 'breakfast' show, Chris Cahill stated on air to the country that currently a firearms license is not required to be produced when purchasing ammunition. As per the arms act this statement is FALSE. Mr Cahill Mislead (he lied) to the country with this statement, and seeing as firearms legislation is currently under review after the select comittee report that was recently released, he lied to the government as well.

I note that The police association has previously mislead the country in stating to the media that twenty thousand guns are stolen from kiwi shooters each year. Which is interesting, as the NZ police do NOT keep records of this.

Why is the nz police association tolerating such a blatant lack of integrity from its president? This behaviour is unacceptable not only for licensed shooters of this country, but the public over all. During my service with the NZDF, this behaviour would likely result in a charge of bringing the service into disrepute.

Mr Cahills actions are at odds with your organizations own stated values, as per Vision / Mission / Values | Police Association which clearly states that your number one value is to act with integrity and honesty. Mr Cahills Deliberate misdirection is anything but acting with integrity and honesty.

I Have also laid a complaint with the IPCA, and will be forwarding a copy to the police minister.

Originally Posted by Sideshow

No I think the airforce supplied that one along with pistol parts?

The Air Force have hand grenades? What the fuck for? Playing tennis?

Originally Posted by Maca49

The Air Force have hand grenades? What the fuck for? Playing tennis?

I was in one of the more field orientated units for 7 years, I only saw smoke grenades. Hand grenades were only used on pre deployment training, which was with army.

Originally Posted by Maca49

The Air Force have hand grenades? What the fuck for? Playing tennis?

Don't no I was referring to that guy busted for stealing gun parts.

Originally Posted by Sideshow

Don't no I was referring to that guy busted for stealing gun parts.

I know, you know! Seems the police,army and Air Force all need new firearm security?

Originally Posted by Maca49

The Air Force have hand grenades? What the fuck for? Playing tennis?

Trout season!

Just finished reading the below thread nicely written! Now is the time to act guys get stuck in
http://www.nzhuntingandshooting.co.n...ll-arms-34435/

Here's an example from South Africa as to what could happen:

"Raids" on expired firearm licence owners
Haven't seen this posted yet, but from GOSA facebook page (and I know a couple of other organisations have emailed it out:

Paul Oxley

15 hrs

It is now confirmed that the Western Cape SAPS are acting on instructions to raid both firearm owners who have expired licences, and firearm dealers.
Today the Foundation for the Defence of Democracy, acting for a large number of dealers initiated action against the specific officers involved in the harassment and intimidation of a number of dealers.
GOSA can advise that, on the face of it, any action against an individual based solely on an expired licence is ultra vires (unlawful), and a direct contravention of the commitment given by SAPS to the High Court. The SAPS actions almost certainly rise to the level of contempt of court.
Whilst we can never advise that a member confronted by a SAPS member, who seems to be in possession of a search warrant, should resist the orders of that officer, we would advise that you immediately contact the Foundation for the Defence of Democracy.
You can contact them by email at issueswithcfr@gmail.com or in emergency via our 24hr callcentre on 08 61 10 61 90.

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Perhaps he could go to 'Stralia he might like the gun laws over there better....I'm sure someone will start a give-a-little page to help fund his relocation

Originally Posted by bolty

Perhaps he could go to 'Stralia he might like the gun laws over there better....I'm sure someone will start a give-a-little page to help fund his relocation

I'll chip in a size 11 boot.

Originally Posted by Husky1600

Lets bring Dougie back, and fuck off this systolic dude, dont need him on here!

Now now chaps everyone entitled to their opinions we cant always agree on everything. That's what makes us civilised.

Banning people for their opinions makes us no better than North Korea.

@Danger Mouse
Cahill is not a police officer anymore so complaining to the IPCA is pointless. I'm betting it wasn't an intentional lie at all, more likely he doesn't know much about it.

Reading some of the posts on here I must say that we come across as arrogant and unreasonable, too much emotion and exaggeration. Exactly which points are bad? Why are they bad? And think of how your responses will look to the average non firearm user.


OJR

Originally Posted by Savage1

Cahill is not a police officer anymore so complaining to the IPCA is pointless. I'm betting it wasn't an intentional lie at all, more likely he doesn't know much about it.

But he should - he is representing your organisation. It's like Dr Nick Riviera from the Simpsons fronting a medical convention.

Originally Posted by Savage1

Reading some of the posts on here I must say that we come across as arrogant and unreasonable, too much emotion and exaggeration. Exactly which points are bad? Why are they bad? And think of how your responses will look to the average non firearm user.

All the points are bad. Here's why:

http://www.nzhuntingandshooting.co.n...ll-arms-34435/

I've sent a few emails off to MP's,one of the suggestions I made was,

Stop the burglars & you stop opportunist theft off firearms. How do you do this, well one way would to be increase the penalties for firearm theft to discourage them, if a burglar knows they will get 5 years for stealing a rifle vs community service for stealing a TV etc. then hopefully they will think twice.