Thread: Snipers world record kill

Originally Posted by Wirehunt

It is? Na, it's a real easy one. Tell the yanks to pack their bags and fuck off out of the whole area, including israel whom they have gifted 1.6 trillion dollars to and are illegally holding land that does NOT belong to them.
It's well proven yanks are behind IS, but wait, they have been poking their noses in that area since the 60s. Critical year being 1979.
Yanks are very actively trying to get rid of the ELECTED leader of Syria who is liked by the people there. Recall them going into Iraq because WMD? Yeah, that was a total lie like most things that happens when the yanks want something.

Just like Gaddafi - free oil, free loans, free agricultural supplies to those interested in farming...for the most part, he was very generous to his people and well liked. Although, if you were against him - you better have been great at turning invisible!

Democracy will not work in the Middle East. Dictatorships work well there. Yes, people are often killed under such regimes, but you've got to look at it from a balanced perspective, and you've got to understand the culture first and foremost. You'll only be able to do the latter by a) immersing yourself in it...or b) immersing yourself in it or c) by being open-minded and trying to understand.

E.g why are innocent children and women killed under such dictatorships? Behavioural nuances often found among Arabs in general, include stubborness and revengfulness (esp. if provoked). If someone is lobbying against the government, and they are executed, there will often be repercussions if close family and friends (whom more often than not would share the same ideology) aren't dealt to. It's sad, and may seem barbaric from our Western influenced perspective, but that's the way it is. You cannot change a cultures general behavioural characteristics via bombs and sending western troops in to shoot the 'bad guys'. That is partly why the argument "but, but - the dictator kills so many innocent people, he should be dealt to!!" doesn't hold a lot of water. It's a different system over there, and people are born into it, and they know the rules. Families are also a lot tighter knit than they are in the West, so beliefs are often very mutual. The irony is that these wars are achieving the very thing that they're meant to 'alleviate' (death of innocents), but it's happening at a much larger scale, and it's a lot messier- I.E families are broken, and children grow up revengeful, and the cycle continues.

The only type of person who can effectively manage an environment fraught with division (which has existed for thousands of years in the ME), is someone who was born and raised in such an environment and wields an iron fist. NOT some western bureaucrat who owns shares in the major oil companies. Take Saddam Hussein as an example. He was an aggressive, bastard of a person, but Iraq was better off as it was then, compared to the power void it's now essentially become.

In saying all of this, young Middle Easterners are becoming increasingly Americanized. They dress like Americans, they eat similar fast food, they use the same social media, etc, etc. That is both good and bad. On one hand it could mean that there may be small cultural shifts, and value based shifts over time. It could also mean that some beneficial cultural values become eroded over time...

Relatively young people are also getting into parliament and branches of govt and gradually allowing their voices be heard (you don't learn that via Fox News or Newshub)...and it's not particularly news worthy either, because any recommendations made to govt will often be very gradual and diplomatic in nature. It's not the USA. Political scandals and outright demonstrations of contumacy often result in people disappearing...

As for the 'terrorism' in Europe as of late. Who actually knows who those people are/were, what their backgrounds are/were, whether they were engaging in those criminal activities under the guise of Islamic ideology, or if they were truly faithful to it, or what the status of their mental health was...etc, etc. Apparently the only prerequisites to being a 'terrorist' are dark/olive skin, facial hair, a middle eastern name and the ability to chant "Allah Akbar" as you mindlessly instigate violence and impose hell on those around you.

The dictionaries definition of terrorism is: the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.

Depending on the context, terrorism can sometimes be a strategic and effective catalyst for change. In no way am I endorsing it - but without a core political aim, it's not really terrorism. That word is often wildly thrown about...