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    Is the standard for a hunting rifle 1.5 moa?

    This video the guy claims no one could soot sub moa with a hunting rifle while he was there. And goes on to claim the accuracy of a hunting rifle should be 1.5 moa.

    I thought it was 1moa or less.

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    All of mine are sub moa, reloads and factory ammo

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    I guess his point is 1.5 is the min or average accuracy for a hunting rifle. But if that's what you hit on the range, you'd be worse in the field, and then extrapolate that past 100m.

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    Most modern rifles are well capable of sub MOA accuracy, most people aren't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryan_Songhurst View Post
    Most modern rifles are well capable of sub MOA accuracy, most people aren't.
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    Most modern rifles are capable of sub MOA. Many shooters a capable of MOA or better from a prone supported shooting position. Few shooters are capable of MOA standing unsupported. Chuck in some variables such as excitement, weather etc and norms go out the window. It is all relative to the shooter and the shooting circumstances.
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    my two cents worth I would be very disappointed if my new rifle shot more than 1 MOA that really is the standard - and yes that is with the best support possible like of a proper bench etc for an older rifle such as a BSA BRNO etc then 1.5 MOA probably quite acceptable and many such as early Sakos Tikka,s Remingtons Shultz and Larsen are of course 1 MOA capable
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    The thing is like it or not a hunting rifle system (including operator) that consistently shoots 2 moa or less will work fantastic in the field

    A 2moa group at 700 yards is only a 372mm, 14 .66" circle, 400 is only 213mm, 8.38" cut a bit of cardboard out that size & put it on a Red Deers shoulder.....

    Obviously less is more & atmospheric conditions have a bearing on things but you don't HAVE to have a 1/2 moa system to have a great hunting rifle
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiwi Greg View Post
    The thing is like it or not a hunting rifle system (including operator) that consistently shoots 2 moa or less will work fantastic in the field

    A 2moa group at 700 yards is only a 372mm, 14 .66" circle, 400 is only 213mm, 8.38" cut a bit of cardboard out that size & put it on a Red Deers shoulder.....

    Obviously less is more & atmospheric conditions have a bearing on things but you don't HAVE to have a 1/2 moa system to have a great hunting rifle
    I would suggest there is a real world difference between 1. MOA and 1/2 MOA may not seem much but it is
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry the hunter View Post
    I would suggest there is a real world difference between 1. MOA and 1/2 MOA may not seem much but it is
    Certainly for a target rifle but for a hunting rifle only if you are trying to shoot something in the eye or head
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    Its a good video and well worth watching

    He is talking about the average not shooting 10 groups and picking the best single group, was a few days ago but im preddy sure he is using 5 shot groups, including the 1st coldbore shot.

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    Any rifle capable of 2moa will take a goat at 300 mtr and thats further than >95% of hunters ever shoot.
    Lots of basic lever guns straight from the box 20,30, hell 50 years old are taking deer every year so don't get hung up on it.

    See it as a challenge for yourself. My 243 bolt is easy sub moa and I hardly use it as its too easy.
    My lever should get moa but I'm often 2moa or worse as it requires much more attention to detail, hold, hand position, sling, butt tension into my shoulder etc.
    Hence I use it way more but some times I would love to sit down on a bench with a good front and rear bag to see what it can do.
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    My personal standard is for a one shot "group", as that's the one that counts. On game, after that first shot the rifles accuracy is far less important than the shooters ability to follow up accurately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rn-85 View Post
    This video the guy claims no one could soot sub moa with a hunting rifle while he was there. And goes on to claim the accuracy of a hunting rifle should be 1.5 moa.

    I thought it was 1moa or less.

    https://youtu.be/zK-Nkwl6ZQU

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    I've always been skeptical about his shooting...seems as rough as guts to me. Then there's that American insistence on measuring accuracy with a fast fired 5 shot group which you can't expect a thin profile hunting barrel to cope with.
    If any of my Tikkas wander outside 1" cooling between shots then I'm having a really bad day.
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