Unusual range pickup

While walking around waiting for sporting clays to start today, I noticed a couple of unusual brass cases lying on the range.

Not often that I come across brass that I can't identify, but this stuff had me stumped until I got home to do some research...

Markings on the base are "Kynoch 401 S.L."

Turns out to be 401 Winchester Self Loading:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.401_W...r_Self-Loading

So someone probably was playing with a 1910 a while ago:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winchester_Model_1910

lucky find:)

Someone been disposing of their banned ammo using a custom chambered Ammunition disposal device that disposes of the ammo, one round at a time........

Something like this should not be crushed because of a poorly thought out left wing agenda....that in itself is a crime. Both the ammo and the rifle are pieces of history.

401 should be ok , only 4 shots ,

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Originally Posted by HILLBILLYHUNTERS

401 should be ok , only 4 shots ,

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Number of shots doesn't matter, ALL centrefire semis are prohibited.

The cartridge was discontinued in the mid 30s in America. The english made it into the 60s so its old stuff. Interesting find though.
The whole self loading family were poorly recieved and short lived, although the 35 sl was evidently partial inspiration for the 30 m1 carbine.

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Originally Posted by Cigar

Number of shots doesn't matter, ALL centrefire semis are prohibited.

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Sadly you’re right, a bloody stupid badly thought law by unknowing bureaucrats..

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Originally Posted by ebf

While walking around waiting for sporting clays to start today, I noticed a couple of unusual brass cases lying on the range.

Not often that I come across brass that I can't identify, but this stuff had me stumped until I got home to do some research...

Markings on the base are "Kynoch 401 S.L."

Turns out to be 401 Winchester Self Loading:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.401_W...r_Self-Loading

So someone probably was playing with a 1910 a while ago:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winchester_Model_1910

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These cartridges on your range are sadly the last shipwreck evidence washed up from that rifle. It may already have been "bought back". Good post, but reading it makes you feel sad and angry.

You should put it in your cartridge collection! I pick up all sorts of kick knacks and have a small bag of the stuff.

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Dropped my lovely 1910 401 off yesterday. Expect it WAS the best condition one in NZ - it would have fired less than 20 shots (mainly by me) since manufacture.

I had and still have dies and bullet swagers plus Bertram brass (all up about $700 worth) that won’t be super useful for much!

Also dropped off a mint/unfired Winchester M100 in 243 Win.

Bugga...

Thats simply awful. Sorry for you, mate.

What a waste...


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Shit I would have waited till the end to keep that.

Man it must break your heart handing stuff like this over (just crazy ill conceived bullshit)

Tragic :(

had to like it so I could UNLIKE that...what a waste,criminal to destroy a piece of history like that....oh no thats right the current bunch of cardigan wearing,hand wringing,tree hugging,pot smoking, braindead morons have made it illegal to keep one.....
surely the dies and brass HAVE to be paid for as well???because you CANT use them for anything other than an illegal firearm??? did anyone even make a rifle chambered for cartridge other than in semi???challenge them to find one.....or pay up chump.... plurry bunch of muppets.

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Here’s my other ‘late’ Winchester...

Both superb classical sporting centrefires...

I cant LIKE that being destroyed.... I surely hope you ran portable angle grinder through it after they had agreed to pay for it...although it would be better if it DID fall out of scap bin into a collection.....a plurry travestry....I really dont like what this clusterfuck of a govt is doing to my country...not one little bit.

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Originally Posted by Micky Duck

had to like it so I could UNLIKE that...what a waste,criminal to destroy a piece of history like that....oh no thats right the current bunch of cardigan wearing,hand wringing,tree hugging,pot smoking, braindead morons have made it illegal to keep one.....
surely the dies and brass HAVE to be paid for as well???because you CANT use them for anything other than an illegal firearm??? did anyone even make a rifle chambered for cartridge other than in semi???challenge them to find one.....or pay up chump.... plurry bunch of muppets.

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No. As far as I know they're not paying for anything other than the rifle and certain accessories.

I have a small bit of ammo that is unusable in anything other than an m1 carbine.

Others have posted how they have at least 1000 bucks per rifle of things that can't be used for anything else but will just be mementos from the good old days.

Fair and reasonable. Where's the Tui ad.

I seem to recall AR or AK stuff with that printed on them were going to be paid for...same difference...IF the rifle is illegal now and the dies/cases/ammo CANNOT be used in another legal firearm....well it is then a illegal rifle specific assessory so needs to be paid for.

An old friend of mine had a Winchester 100 semi in 308 years ago. It was in pretty good nick from memory. No idea if he still has it. I would've tried to buy it off him if I had the coin.
Another old school mates dad had a Winchester 401 SL.
Been restocked in wood from old bridge beams (cant remember the bridge-Greymouth road bridge maybe?), so probably an aussie hardwood. Only saw it the once 30 odd years ago but its the only one I ever saw and it is something I would remember. I seem to remember the wood having some yellow colour to it.
I would not be happy handing that in to the squasher. It was a pretty little thing

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Originally Posted by Marty Henry

Shit I would have waited till the end to keep that.

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Likewise

I would have hung on until the end in the faint hope that rifles like that are granted some sort of exemption.

Knew a bloke with a Winchester 100 in 284 (rare as the proverbial),pretty mint last time I saw it.
Not sure he still has it
Gonna be hard to see that go in the mincer.
This is the dumbest shit ever.

Stopped this thread half way through. Just makes me fucking sad.

They are destroying art.

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Mindless vandalism. Tragic in the extreme.

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Originally Posted by huntsika

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Here’s my other ‘late’ Winchester...

Both superb classical sporting centrefires...

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Old JAcinda surely puts the CUNT in CUNTRY

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Originally Posted by Micky Duck

I seem to recall AR or AK stuff with that printed on them were going to be paid for...same difference...IF the rifle is illegal now and the dies/cases/ammo CANNOT be used in another legal firearm....well it is then a illegal rifle specific assessory so needs to be paid for.

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No ammo is compensated for, or dies, or e cat safes, or e cat endorsement fees, or slings, or optics, or anything else they think they can jew us on.

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Originally Posted by 40mm

No ammo is compensated for, or dies, or e cat safes, or e cat endorsement fees, or slings, or optics, or anything else they think they can jew us on.

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Don’t get me started on the magazine holders on my belt and brass catcher etc.

Such a waste to destroy craftsmanship like that :(

On the topic of picking up unusual brass, I once found a 9mm Luger shell about 30m off the beach in Lake Wanaka. Out for a swim, see something shiny in the water, hmm what's that...

Wow... two very stunning guns and in great condition!

What's the story and history on each gun?

Tragic… tragic that those guns and any gun for that matter is being destroyed!

I found some empty 7.92 Kurtz brass / steel that would have been good to play with.