Thread: Urgent Message For All Lake Lyndon Target Shooters

Originally Posted by Moutere

Re-read your permit, it's not grey or cloudy at all.

Show me where I can't. There's enough reason to say that I am in the 'Green Zone' than not and without a permit anyway.

The ranger actually was happy to see it. Look, I see the depth of what people are saying but your side as well as mine remain unvalidated on paper. If a shooter was responsible, aware to environment and cleaned up after himself tell me how that is any more dangerous than hunting?

I'm not trying to start an argument. Just seeking legislative clarity on a subject that perhaps needs to be better addressed.

I think it’s a bit of a stretch to say it’s a grey area - you have a hunting permit, not a general dicking about discharging firearms permit. From a liability perspective it would be irresponsible for DOC / RCs to condone this (cf the hoops clubs jump through to be allowed to operate).

Why not just join a club?

Why dont you ring doc in the morning and ask? get them to show you the grey area.

Originally Posted by CBrom97

Show me where I can't. There's enough reason to say that I am in the 'Green Zone' than not and without a permit anyway.

The ranger actually was happy to see it. Look, I see the depth of what people are saying but your side as well as mine remain unvalidated on paper. If a shooter was responsible, aware to environment and cleaned up after himself tell me how that is any more dangerous than hunting?

Now this is entirely my own opinion interpretation here, be it correct or incorrect.
It's a hunting permit, no where does it make mention of shooting, plinking gongs or load development etc.
You weren't hunting.

Frankly I'm pissed off when hunters come to a hunting area to sight their rifles in.... let alone thinking that they can set up some sort of unregulated target range.

I don't think 'Dicking about' is the greatest term for it. If I was randomly shooting to the hills then yes. It is concentrated fire at a small target in a safe direction. I don't 'dick about' with firearms. Clubs don't offer much past 100 metres?

Originally Posted by CBrom97

I don't think 'Dicking about' is the greatest term for it. If I was randomly shooting to the hills then yes. It is concentrated fire at a small target in a safe direction. I don't 'dick about' with firearms. Clubs don't offer much past 100 metres?

I know of at least three clubs closer to town than Lyndon that do, possibly four....

Phone DOC and put a case forward for a designated area to shoot gongs.
With enough support you never know what might be achieved if a club range is not your thing.
I completely understand your frustration, been there when I was younger... joined a club.

Originally Posted by Sidney

Frankly I'm pissed off when hunters come to a hunting area to sight their rifles in.... let alone thinking that they can set up some sort of unregulated target range.

Completely argee, Yet another reason why here should be an area set aside for those that do want to sight in rifles / shoot gongs

Never been to the area personally, but do use doc administered land for sighting in/working out bullet drop.

Usual case of a few people ruining it for the majority of users.

This grey area could be an issue that once ironed out causes more headaches. You can apply for a rimfire permit for pest destruction but does this mean you can't have a plinking session with a 22? (safely set up and away from others, even using subsonics)

Originally Posted by Moutere

Phone DOC and put a case forward for a designated area to shoot gongs.
With enough support you never know what might be achieved if a club range is not your thing.
I completely understand your frustration, been there when I was younger... joined a club.

Cheers for that. I don't mind a range I just like to go at times inland away from unknown people lol and as a group Kinda like fishing if you will!

Hopefully a better resolution might arise. It's not that I don't want to embrace safe shooting it's just nice to have options on where to go seeming hunters have the same liberty when they are also safety focused and aware and just as able for serious mistakes.

Does anyone know of some open areas for target shooting near Auckland? Preferably northern Auckland?
Or even some shooting ranges that let you do your own thing?? I have a permit for DOC hunting areas in northland so the little forest by mangawhai heads as well as mangatawhiri forest. I havent been shooting at either of those yet but does anyone know if there are open shooting areas in either of those??

- Anthony

It's far easier to get hold of someone from NZDA and go to their range in McLeans Island than driving 1 /12 hrs out to Lyndon where it's more often than not blowing it's tits off or stinking hot.
$20 to use the range shit loads cheaper than fuel to drive out to Lyndon as well.
There are guys that are RO's that go out very frequently and are more than willing for a couple of extras to tag along.
Or wait till the public days when the range is open to the public

Too many cowboys/fucking idiots been going up to Lyndon and making an arse of themselves. Been many close calls up there.

Watching this with interest, due to there being an NZDA sponsored range on DOC land, adjacent to a well used mountain bike track, at Nelson lakes area.

If you want to go bomb up a hillside it should be done at a range or on private land. That lake Lyndon setup has always got on my nerves, some weekends you would be forgiven for thinking there was an army firing range or something up there. The users argue that they are being safe etc and not bothering anyone, the reason you're not bothering anyone is because nobody wants to use the area because it is a known fact that there are often shooters there so people stay away. It's a mess and attracts all sorts of undesirables in their shitty jacked up trucks and silly flat peak hats. There's brass and Codys bourbon cans and big 4wd ruts all over the show. Time it was shut up. These backcountry areas are meant to be for recreation, whether that be hiking or hunting etc and bombing it up every weekend just disturbs the area and leaves it good for fuck all.