Thread: Wairoa gun club update

For those who think a "half arsed " so called trained R.O is somehow going to save your arse better think real Hard . Something is not better than nothing , the reason being if "something" happens the Police will be the least of your worries because whether you like it or not you are classed as a PCBU .
And Worksafe will be chewing your arse while examining your navel from the inside . I have been a fully qualified R.O for 30 years and involved with multiple different types of ranges for 10 years more . I also have a bit to do with Health and Safety in a challenging area and believe you me the paper work and all round bollocks is not enjoyable especially if something goes wrong . And investigations , no matter how minor are really not fun . And as the Heath & Safety man once said " I may not know how to do your job , but I will still tell you how you went wrong ".

Originally Posted by Tankd

For those who think a "half arsed " so called trained R.O is somehow going to save your arse better think real Hard . Something is not better than nothing , the reason being if "something" happens the Police will be the least of your worries because whether you like it or not you are classed as a PCBU .
And Worksafe will be chewing your arse while examining your navel from the inside . I have been a fully qualified R.O for 30 years and involved with multiple different types of ranges for 10 years more . I also have a bit to do with Health and Safety in a challenging area and believe you me the paper work and all round bollocks is not enjoyable especially if something goes wrong . And investigations , no matter how minor are really not fun . And as the Heath & Safety man once said " I may not know how to do your job , but I will still tell you how you went wrong ".

The Health & Safety at Work Act 2015 is pretty clear on this - a volunteer association is not a PCBU.

Originally Posted by Tankd

For those who think a "half arsed " so called trained R.O is somehow going to save your arse better think real Hard . Something is not better than nothing , the reason being if "something" happens the Police will be the least of your worries because whether you like it or not you are classed as a PCBU .
And Worksafe will be chewing your arse while examining your navel from the inside . I have been a fully qualified R.O for 30 years and involved with multiple different types of ranges for 10 years more . I also have a bit to do with Health and Safety in a challenging area and believe you me the paper work and all round bollocks is not enjoyable especially if something goes wrong . And investigations , no matter how minor are really not fun . And as the Heath & Safety man once said " I may not know how to do your job , but I will still tell you how you went wrong ".

Originally Posted by Gillie

The Health & Safety at Work Act 2015 is pretty clear on this - a volunteer association is not a PCBU.

@Gillie is correct, but if you are the duty officer on a range and someone is seriously hurt (or worse killed) you may still have to explain what happened and why the rules weren't obeyed or followed.

Worst case scenario is appearing before a coroner and having to explain why Joe/Jane died when you were duty officer.

That's why I am a stickler for making sure the rules are clear, enforceable, and obeyed.

Originally Posted by Gillie

The Health & Safety at Work Act 2015 is pretty clear on this - a volunteer association is not a PCBU.

Unfortunately you are a PCBU , you take money from people to provide a service i,e to attend and participate in a competition . You also give "payment" by giving a "volunteer " free entry to other "competitions" , that is deemed as a gain and a payment . "Competitions " are held on a Commercial operation i.e a Farm and it does not matter whether money changes hands either, that means the Farmer can cop it too. And finally "volunteer workers" can still be prosecuted by Worksafe for "failing" in their duties .