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Normie What's the Deal? 26-03-2013, 02:07 PM
Wirehunt Was atmospheric conditions... 26-03-2013, 02:19 PM
StrikerNZ That would be my guess too.... 26-03-2013, 02:24 PM
Kiwi Greg +1 Were there angles... 26-03-2013, 02:31 PM
Normie I'm not sure what baro was I... 26-03-2013, 02:50 PM
CreepingDeath Ive got a master chrony and... 26-03-2013, 03:00 PM
Normie Nope. Was definitely meters... 26-03-2013, 03:04 PM
sneeze Unless the worlds about to... 26-03-2013, 06:34 PM
R93 +1 Chrono, zero or your... 26-03-2013, 08:38 PM
Normie I re-zeroed minutes before... 26-03-2013, 10:35 PM
R93 That leaves 2 other things to... 26-03-2013, 10:48 PM
CreepingDeath Do you have a load zero for... 26-03-2013, 11:44 PM
Normie Not sure what the book speed... 27-03-2013, 08:08 AM
R93 There are many variables I... 27-03-2013, 08:18 AM
sneeze Bullets on target don't lie... 27-03-2013, 06:59 PM
R93 Too much light is as bad as... 27-03-2013, 07:08 PM
sneeze Yes might help but you just... 27-03-2013, 07:23 PM
R93 What do you mean by that... 27-03-2013, 08:57 PM
mucko ADI book speed is 2675 in a... 29-03-2013, 05:24 AM
Normie Wow. That's a lot slower than... 27-03-2013, 08:47 AM
Wirehunt What weight bullet R93? 27-03-2013, 11:30 AM
R93 140 Amax Sent from my... 27-03-2013, 06:25 PM
sneeze Yes dark is good with the ir... 27-03-2013, 09:08 PM
R93 Yep, sounds good. I will... 27-03-2013, 09:22 PM
veitnamcam I watched my f1 jump 150 fps... 27-03-2013, 09:16 PM
sneeze Thats it, they serve a... 27-03-2013, 09:23 PM
LJP I always use Brian Litz Bc's.... 28-03-2013, 07:53 AM
gimp I believe that bullets CAN... 29-03-2013, 01:22 AM
Norway My guess. Can't argue with... 29-03-2013, 03:16 AM
gimp What zero range for the... 29-03-2013, 05:06 AM
Normie Thanks for the help. Seems... 29-03-2013, 09:09 AM
L.R At 2644fps I doubt if the G7... 29-03-2013, 08:34 AM
gimp You have to drop it to below... 29-03-2013, 09:02 AM
L.R I agree that the G7 wont be... 29-03-2013, 10:52 AM
Normie Is the G7 BC velocity... 29-03-2013, 08:57 AM
gimp Much much less so than G1,... 29-03-2013, 09:03 AM
gimp Data at 650m was only on... 29-03-2013, 09:39 AM
Normie Yes, muzzle vo was fudged... 29-03-2013, 10:14 AM
Normie Thanks LR. I might take you... 29-03-2013, 11:33 AM
R93 Is it a custom or factory... 29-03-2013, 11:56 AM
L.R If that load is doing 2500fps... 29-03-2013, 11:51 AM
gimp I was shooting 42gr of 2209... 29-03-2013, 11:52 AM
Normie R93 it's a customish rifle.... 29-03-2013, 12:03 PM
Normie When Abe built my barreled... 29-03-2013, 12:04 PM
R93 No not really. Should be... 29-03-2013, 12:06 PM
L.R May explain early pressure... 29-03-2013, 12:17 PM
Norway Shooting Chrony is not bad,... 29-03-2013, 08:04 PM
gimp I know :) no problems with... 29-03-2013, 10:45 PM
Normie My scales are shit really and... 29-03-2013, 11:59 AM
gimp Yeah, I saw that, looked like... 29-03-2013, 12:07 PM
gimp It also could be the 'bullets... 29-03-2013, 12:21 PM
L.R Yes Gimp all of that sounds... 29-03-2013, 12:00 PM
gimp If he's getting pressure at... 29-03-2013, 12:04 PM
Normie Just done in JBM. ANything... 29-03-2013, 12:06 PM
gimp Missing line of sight... 29-03-2013, 12:14 PM
L.R Id say Normies barrel is... 29-03-2013, 12:13 PM
gimp It could be an issue of the... 29-03-2013, 12:17 PM
L.R I dont agree with you on... 29-03-2013, 12:20 PM
gimp We're talking a 22" .260 here... 29-03-2013, 12:26 PM
Norway Short barreled 6,5x284 out to... 29-03-2013, 08:11 PM
Normie Zero is 10 mil up from bottom... 29-03-2013, 12:39 PM
tui_man2 On the tighter bore barrels I... 29-03-2013, 12:52 PM
R93 Nothing to do with the bore... 29-03-2013, 12:46 PM
Normie Case length is about the... 29-03-2013, 01:23 PM
Wildman I get an average of 2712fps... 29-03-2013, 03:21 PM
Dead is better Thats what i get with my... 29-03-2013, 06:13 PM
jakewire That's interesting as I get... 29-03-2013, 09:33 PM
gimp Different rifles, brass,... 29-03-2013, 10:39 PM
L.R May as well have a 260. Same... 29-03-2013, 08:14 PM
Norway No you lose approximately 30... 29-03-2013, 08:46 PM
tui_man2 Sorry normie for the steel an... 29-03-2013, 11:01 PM
gimp 1: it was 4" 2: a single... 29-03-2013, 10:38 PM
Norway No you lose 30 msec doing... 29-03-2013, 08:44 PM
Normie What about parallax? Could it... 09-04-2013, 09:41 PM
gimp maybe. 09-04-2013, 10:35 PM
L.R Fuck Tussock, I didn't... 11-04-2013, 11:49 AM
Toby Does that make fluting a... 11-04-2013, 12:54 PM
gimp Lighter weight without... 11-04-2013, 01:03 PM
Toby Would having barrels that are... 11-04-2013, 01:04 PM
tui_man2 And weight Sent from my... 11-04-2013, 01:06 PM
Kiwi Greg Thanks Tussock I have been... 11-04-2013, 01:30 PM
gimp Yeah I'm not really into... 11-04-2013, 01:16 PM
Gillie I am not sure I am following... 11-04-2013, 02:45 PM
Nibblet I would agree with you... 11-04-2013, 03:46 PM
Nibblet Just some light thermal... 11-04-2013, 03:52 PM
Savage1 A heavier barrel also offers... 11-04-2013, 09:09 PM
veitnamcam If you take the same quantity... 11-04-2013, 10:39 PM
sneeze So after seven pages we can... 12-04-2013, 05:46 PM
veitnamcam Finally someone who... 12-04-2013, 05:51 PM
veitnamcam Yes and no, a light and heavy... 11-04-2013, 10:36 PM
veitnamcam The coffee analogy Sent... 12-04-2013, 07:49 AM
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    Quote Originally Posted by gimp View Post
    What zero range for the rifle? And what zero range entered in the app? Because I'm waiting for a plane in Singapore and have had 3 very large black coffees I have had a play with JBM.

    With 2644fps and 100m actual rifle zero/100m zero entered in program the 500m elevation is 3.8mil, 650m is 5.9mil (ie the ~corrections that you required to hit)

    With 2644fps and 100m actual rifle zero/200m zero entered in program the 500m elevation is 3.1mil, 650m is 5.2mil (ie the 500m ~correction that did not hit, we had no information supplied about misses at 650m)

    2500fps is super slow for that powder/charge/bullet/case.

    A theory: your rifle is zeroed at 100 meters but the program was set for a 200 meter zero. I can believe an easily overlooked data input error, they happen regularly.


    Edit: I think I accidentally did all that with JBM set to G6 not G7 but that just kinda proves my point of how easy it is to miss one little input in a program, doubly so outdoors on a phone etc
    Thanks for the help. Seems like some kind of input error then. Might ask Leathel what the zero range he entered was. Or maybe it is set for POI 1.5" at 100 for one of his rifles?

    Zero is definitely 100m, angle of the shot was 5 degrees uphill for both shots. Correction was needed at 500m but not at 650m data was on. Shot was at a clay bank and splash was visible for corrections/misses. Final shot at 650m was a rock about .2 mil wide and 1 high. POI was at the left of the rock but elevation was spot on, wind would have pushed it I guess (light breeze from 5 o'clock).

    I know Chronys can be off but I wouldn't have thought by that much.
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