HELLO :-)

Hi guys n gals. hello and thanks for letting me join. quick run down of my history. i did smallbore shooting as a young fella. have always been interested in target shooting. i have done a little bit of small animal shooting. now days im more into air pistols n rifles as i had limited time and space to shoot. love the airguns tho and i have several powerful ones, including one that shoots a .50 caliber round ball. i also have a shotgun. felt it was time to join a forum tho as im looking finally into buying land so i will have the space to shoot. im looking at longer range target shooter, 3-400m so any advice on that would be good. i will be going through the forum records to see what people have said in the past. but by the looks a .223 bolt action suppressed would suit. i just dont know if a store brought one for like under $1k would suit that or what the story is. but eager to learn. thanks again for the join, cheers Mark :)

welcome. first question is (and i own 2) but why a 223 ???

Hi mate, from what iv googled, it will shoot the range I’m looking for, bullets are cheaper than bigger calibers, but quieter, things like that. But I’m not tied to it ;) that’s why I’m here. To learn :) I had a 243 many years ago but the farm was massive. I’m looking at a 54acre place at the mo n it’s near lifestyle blocks so I’m a little cautious with them :)

yep 223 is cheap but if you want to target shoot 400ish there are better options like 6,5gr, 6.5cr and the mighty 7mmRM. the 243 isn a bad round either but was considered a medium/long range varmint round.
after stalinda took my AR i bought a norinco 223 to use the ammo. never even shot it before i got a howa mini action 223 to replace it and these things are great ( still havent used mine yet as the rings cracked when fitting the scope)

also pics of your 50 cal airgun!!

Small cal centrefires are capable of throwing a pill ay outside 50 acres . A safe background is essential for any centrefire. Even a .22 will go a mile. In other words, a .308 is a good choice for deer sized game.
Anyway, hi and enjoy.

mmm ok will look into the cailbers as well. would it have to be an expensive 223 to be fairly accurate at 400m?

stink re Stalinda. iv seen those mini action howas on a few sites so i will be interested to see how you go on that. what range are you planning with that?

and i will post a pic of my airguns :)

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Originally Posted by Phil_H

Welcome @mark kiwi. We look forward to your input and involvement. Lots of good advice here......

First up.....beware of @gonetropo....he's known as the fixer and the Fagin of the forum.......He'll flash open his coat to you and many sparkly things will shine out at you......one being a black .223 :D:D:thumbsup:

No....I jest....he's OK.....I have been shown the underside of his coat many times and have been overwhelmed enough to purchase some of what what has hung there....and both of us are straight....well I am at least...:ORLY:

Anyway, again welcome......I don't think there are many here who will put you wrong....apart from that @Phil_H when he is stuck in Auckland away from the farm and bored wittless.

Cheers
Errhhh...arrgh.....Phil_h....:psychotic:

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you couldnt afford my sparkly bits mate!!!
as for straight, i always thought you were a trisexual (you would try anything) sorry to hear you are stuck in dorkland though

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Originally Posted by Woody

Small cal centrefires are capable of throwing a pill ay outside 50 acres . A safe background is essential for any centrefire. Even a .22 will go a mile. In other words, a .308 is a good choice for deer sized game.
Anyway, hi and enjoy.

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thanks woody, good info too. yeah she backs onto hundreds of kms of bush so im good to go there. i would never fire in the direction of the lifestyle blocks. but my max target range i could set up there would be 400m. cheers :)

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Originally Posted by Phil_H

Welcome @mark kiwi. We look forward to your input and involvement. Lots of good advice here......

First up.....beware of @gonetropo....he's known as the fixer and the Fagin of the forum.......He'll flash open his coat to you and many sparkly things will shine out at you......one being a black .223 :D:D:thumbsup:

No....I jest....he's OK.....I have been shown the underside of his coat many times and have been overwhelmed enough to purchase some of what what has hung there....and both of us are straight....well I am at least...:ORLY:

Anyway, again welcome......I don't think there are many here who will put you wrong....apart from that @Phil_H when he is stuck in Auckland away from the farm and bored wittless.

Cheers
Errhhh...arrgh.....Phil_h....:psychotic:

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Ha awesome mate, some good advise there :-)

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Originally Posted by gonetropo

also pics of your 50 cal airgun!!

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oh actually i read the rules at the start and i cant post pics yet :)

308 is a damn good choice @Woody . if you cant kill it with a 308 in nz you are too far away or a lousy shot.
i shot 308 for 30 years before i went 7mm. best of all you can buy it anywhere.
now ignore @Phil_H he's just jealous because he is the one thats a sex object: he asks for sex and women object :P

Welcome!

The biggest issue IMHO is wind drift with 223 at longer distances. 400 and 600 is definitely well within it's capability but the wind starts to push the small projectile quite a bit. Also i'ts usually more difficult to observe the bluet strike at this range than say a 6.5 or .308 projectile.

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Originally Posted by mimms2

Long range. 400. lol.


...long for cartridge maybe.
Nothing wrong with .223. Certainly cheap and cheerful.

Depending how you've been stretching the airguns/rimfire, it's basically an extension of the skills, range estimation (/knowledge) and wind reading.

I'm always leary of store package specials. I haven't seen one put together properly yet. Plenty of good deals come up here. $1k isn't super money but will certainly buy you something very decent.


...am I allowed to mention tikka yet, or is it too early in the day for fights?

oh, and creedmore only if you have a man-bun, neck-beard and iPhone attached to your non-wanking hand.

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Ha cheers , ok longish ;) one maybe if a club is near by i will get it to 1000yards. I tried that in Aussie n that was cool. But on my prospective land, 3-400 which is why I thought 223 would do the job. As for store brought, that is what I was wondering and thought would be the case so a deal on here one day with a proven rifle maybe the way to go. I def don’t have a man bun ;-0

as with 308 ammo of 223 is pretty much everywhere which is good while hunting and less hassle when flying
223 will drift though, its a pretty light slug. at the end of the day it a case of hunt/target and range/knockdown.

i still want to see this 50 cal though

@ops is it ok to post?

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Originally Posted by mimms2

Oh and .223 will target shoot to 600. People do shoot to 900 or even 1000. But for the average guy with the average gun, 600 isn't unreasonable.

You're also going to want to start hand-loading.

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Yeah iv read a bit about loading n def something I would do eventually. But prob only once I’m comfortable with what I have and better knowledge. :)

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Originally Posted by 300CALMAN

Welcome!

The biggest issue IMHO is wind drift with 223 at longer distances. 400 and 600 is definitely well within it's capability but the wind starts to push the small projectile quite a bit. Also i'ts usually more difficult to observe the bluet strike at this range than say a 6.5 or .308 projectile.

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I hear ya, tho I do enjoy a challenge with the wind aspect. But good info n something to consider. The strike is a good point tho. If I can’t see it hit then what’s the point ;-0

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Originally Posted by gonetropo

as with 308 ammo of 223 is pretty much everywhere which is good while hunting and less hassle when flying
223 will drift though, its a pretty light slug. at the end of the day it a case of hunt/target and range/knockdown.

i still want to see this 50 cal though

@ops is it ok to post?

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Ha I will post a pic but it’s not that exciting :) maybe I will post a pic of the pellet sizes all lined up so you can see the dif then. It’s bloody loud to shoot. Louder than my shorty.

Welcome fellah.

welcome, where are these .50 wind wanker pics?

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Originally Posted by Rushy

Welcome fellah.

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Thanks mate, so far it seems like a fun group :)

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Originally Posted by 40mm

welcome, where are these .50 wind wanker pics?

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I’m afraid the rules say I can post pics yet, afraid of wind are we ;)

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Originally Posted by mark kiwi

I’m afraid the rules say I can post pics yet, afraid of wind are we ;)

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Post more! Then you can post pics..

.50 ain't afraid of the wind.

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Originally Posted by 300CALMAN

Post more! Then you can post pics..

.50 ain't afraid of the wind.

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Cheers mate I’m working on it :) going through the old posts having a good read at the mo :)