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Dan Chang Hello from Dan Chang in China 13-06-2022, 04:54 PM
Larskramer can your torch automatically... 13-06-2022, 04:56 PM
Dan Chang I heard red light torch will... 13-06-2022, 05:00 PM
Larskramer I mean can I set the torch... 13-06-2022, 05:19 PM
Dan Chang Larskaramer, are you busy all... 14-06-2022, 01:47 AM
Bol Tackshin Welcome Dan Do a search... 13-06-2022, 05:22 PM
Dan Chang Thanks Bol for the share. 14-06-2022, 02:21 AM
scottrods this conversation is... 13-06-2022, 05:22 PM
7mm Rem Mag Hi mate, if you want to sell... 13-06-2022, 05:49 PM
Dan Chang Hi mate, we don't have this... 14-06-2022, 02:26 AM
Micky Duck hmmmmm so someone from China... 13-06-2022, 07:20 PM
Dan Chang It doesn't have to be like... 14-06-2022, 02:38 AM
7mm Rem Mag Yep MD I bought one of those... 13-06-2022, 09:13 PM
JessicaChen I am surprised you are... 14-06-2022, 02:45 AM
caberslash Look at Acebeam and copy... 14-06-2022, 03:14 AM
Sideshow please dont make me laugh... 14-06-2022, 09:18 AM
mudgripz Brian gadgetman and I have a... 14-06-2022, 02:00 PM
257weatherby You build it and we will buy... 14-06-2022, 08:32 PM
TeRei What about the poor buggers... 14-06-2022, 09:04 PM
Micky Duck hoped you would see this... 14-06-2022, 07:07 PM
mudgripz EXactly.. 14-06-2022, 08:03 PM
Sideshow Hmmm no reply maybe his... 14-06-2022, 08:42 PM
Finnwolf Is the O.P. a bunji... 14-06-2022, 09:35 PM
Micky Duck nah.....just some leech...... 14-06-2022, 10:17 PM
Larrygoat Micky Duck I understand you... 15-06-2022, 06:54 AM
Micky Duck some how I do not think you... 15-06-2022, 09:09 AM
Larrygoat I understand where you are... 15-06-2022, 12:41 PM
Micky Duck well Im not singing kumbyah... 15-06-2022, 01:03 PM
7mm Rem Mag And I would like to add MD is... 15-06-2022, 07:12 PM
Larrygoat OK, you got me, I called... 15-06-2022, 08:40 PM
mudgripz Micky is not wrong here Lars.... 15-06-2022, 02:42 PM
Larrygoat I appreciate the context,... 15-06-2022, 02:59 PM
XR500 My Singaporean/Chinese... 15-06-2022, 03:04 PM
257weatherby It beggars belief that... 15-06-2022, 04:50 PM
rugerman you do realise that the... 15-06-2022, 07:55 PM
257weatherby I put together a rather... 15-06-2022, 10:18 PM
T.FOYE An open and honest... 15-06-2022, 03:07 PM
hokonui Fonteera found out the hard... 15-06-2022, 04:37 PM
mudgripz +1 7mm Rem Mag. I've had... 15-06-2022, 08:49 PM
Micky Duck well Im not a bigoted person... 15-06-2022, 08:52 PM
Sideshow Lol anyway back to the... 15-06-2022, 09:00 PM
Micky Duck hilarious ....copyrite doesnt... 15-06-2022, 09:13 PM
rugerman Fair enough mate. I just got... 15-06-2022, 11:09 PM
Synthetic This has elevated from a junk... 16-06-2022, 12:08 AM
JessicaChen Yeah my chinese dad works in... 16-06-2022, 12:33 AM
caberslash Just to throw my... 16-06-2022, 02:45 AM
Grey Kiwi So...just a thought...but... 16-06-2022, 11:58 AM
rugerman I'm not sure if you can use a... 16-06-2022, 12:23 PM
JessicaChen You certainly can use a VPN... 16-06-2022, 01:09 PM
off.the.grid What torch company do you... 16-06-2022, 01:09 PM
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    Micky is not wrong here Lars.

    I had years of experience dealing with chinese manufacturers and their level of ethical practice is extremely low. This is experience - not mere opinion. They will seek/offer every advantage with New Zealand companies but break agreements the instant it suits. Eventually I set up a strong step by step conditional agreement and offered it to 5-6 leading manufacturers - an agreement which retained product control for my company, but none would accept it. In my field - company and market management - this is all to well known. Not xenophobia - fact unfortunately.

    My family members work in major NZ corporates - and those corporates have also had very bad experience with unethical chinese counterparts. Had to sue them in court there - a very difficult and costly process. High risk dealing with any of them.

    This present enquiry for torch information from china is likely not well received here because people know they broke production/marketing agreements with a NZ torch company. And they seek ongoing product advantage data while continuing unethical practice with NZ companies. Be aware - and this is a qualified and experienced professional opinion - every NZ marketing manager knows chinese ethical contract problems well.

    Best advice - caveat emptor - let the buyer beware. One may have a well understood agreement/contract - but it means as much or as little as they choose. Legal remedies extremely difficult under chinese law, and cost prohibitive for most NZ companies.
    Last edited by mudgripz; 15-06-2022 at 02:49 PM.
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