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Originally Posted by Ryan_Songhurst

Jose I will come to Argentina again as soon as I can. My wife is from Uruguay, I lived there for a few years and before the pandemic we went for holiday once or twice a year. I've been in Argentina a lot, our farm in Uruguay is near Fray Bentos so we used to go to BA in the weekends sometimes I've also driven from Fray Bentos to Cordoba before and we have friends in Entre Lagos in Chile and I've driven from there through to Bariloche

Bravo ..... then I'll wait for it

What's the deal with hunting / access to firearms as a visitor to Argentina (i.e. not bringing one's own rifle)? Can one borrow a rifle / hunt under supervision or is there a visitor's permit?

Originally Posted by Ryan

Argentina, Chile and Uruguay are countries in South America I'd like to visit.

Será bienvenido

Originally Posted by Ryan

What's the deal with hunting / access to firearms as a visitor to Argentina (i.e. not bringing one's own rifle)? Can one borrow a rifle / hunt under supervision or is there a visitor's permit?

No problem for the weapon. If you want to bring your own rifle, you must check with customs. But if not, I can borrow one
In the field where I hunt there are no guides or trackers, it is the field of a friend. The only expense is food, which is a shared expense.
The only thing I can't give you is permission if you want to get what you hunt out of the country.
It's as natural as possible, you sleep in a tent. No amenities

Originally Posted by JLF

No problem for the weapon. If you want to bring your own rifle, you must check with customs. But if not, I can borrow one
In the field where I hunt there are no guides or trackers, it is the field of a friend. The only expense is food, which is a shared expense.
The only thing I can't give you is permission if you want to get what you hunt out of the country.
It's as natural as possible, you sleep in a tent. No amenities

Sounds ideal! Gonna need to work on my Spanish, only things I can do is count to 10, say "happy birthday" and hello / goodbye. I know the most important word though - cerveza.

@JLF ; Hola Bienvenido Amigo. Me & my wife were lucky enough to spend a few years guiding in Argentina during the Duck & Dove Seasons, as it worked out perfect with our guiding in PNG & the Top End of Oz, being l guided in Oz up to the onset of the Wet season proper & before access out of our remote camps were cut & we would then head to Argentina & guide from the start of Jan to June roughly.

Anyone thinking of going we can thoroughly recommend it, like most places the cities have problems from the high unemployment & usual corrupt politicians & bureaucrat' s ,but out in the countryside where we spent basically all our time the people were fantastic & their out look on life,work & enjoying themselves was among the most similar to us Old School Kiwis we came across in all our world travels.

The food is absolutely first class as is the wine & again very similar to here , for a long time l have posted in the food section here, Argentinian based food we still eat on a regular basis as both me & the Missus love eating that style of cooking .My Lill Bro is down for the Xmas Holidays so l cooked what we call Gaucho 1.5k Ribeye Rib Eye steaks cooked over wood fired grill with a Argentinian sauce my missus got the recipe from a lovely ,old ,local Camp Cook we came to call Nanna, while we were living there .Simply Salt & Pepper , capsicum ,onion Garlic & Jalapeno crushed up & mixed with some White Wine added & then spooned on.






I was only really involved with the Wing Shooting while their as Canned hunts are not my thing ,but we did spend some nights hunting the local Wild Boars scoring a couple of smaller ones. Jose would be very privileged to have access to good private hunting grounds ,so his offer takes on even more meaning than we can imagine (said many times us Kiwis do not realize how lucky we are).

I have been lucky enough to have hunted around the World ,with out a doubt Argentina offers the best Wing Shooting in the World .The Dove hunting is mind blowing ,with a Old School 2 case day being the norm & hunters usually shoot 2 guns with a "Shell Boy " loader ,towards the end of our time for us things started to turn a bit ugly with a small number of cashed up EuroTrash & Yanks starting a Idiot Book & Twatter led "Record Dove Hunts " comp , where they would just keep shooting all day (normally only shoot a few hours a day ), often using 4 guns & totals were bragged about of 7000 plus in a day .

The Doves & at times Ducks would black out the sky & there were that many Doves for the evening shoot where they are coming to roost they make their own Breeze & snap branches out of trees there are that many on branches .From memory they estimate there were over Fifty Million & flocks were regularly so big they block out Radar feeds .Hardest part guiding was getting clients to single out birds , the Shell Boys or loaders would make a local small fortune picking uop & selling the Doves to the Local markets.

l always wing hunted in Argy with a 2 gun set of custom 11/87's a mate who owned a Briley Franchise in the US did for me, they were cut to 22" (l have The Churchill XXV bug ) & he did every option Briley offered (as display units) including replacing the plastic shell follower for a Aero grade aluminum one, as under the high load Argy shoots it was a common failure on all breeds,you do not even think of , l also use a pair of Briley modded M2's which were a popular choice, l got SH from a client,1000 shells a day was the norm so top class recoil pads & a under shirt pad as well after a couple of days was the norm ,what you do not think about is clothes friction with under the shooting load would give road rash type burns many clients wore custom silk T Shirts under to stop it .

What l also liked about the countryside way of living there was it seemed to be largely classless ,by that l mean it was not unusual for the extremely rich, by any standard , Ranch owners to bring & drink beer with the workers & Gaucho's at the end of notable work occasions etc.

I had a afternoon shooting Doves l will never forget ,where the Ranch owner had flown in to his private airstrip to have a hunt with us before we flew out & he had heard me lusting over his Sweet Little SXS Westley Richards .410 Droplock ,on a previous hunt & he would not take no for a answer & insisted l shoot it on this hunt with the 1/2 case of shells he had for it ,he had won some money betting on me on a Skeet Shoot we had 3 weeks before & said it was my reward .It was one of the most exhilarating hunts l have ever done, with a gun so light & well balanced it truly did feel like part of you & being able to watch the shot ghost, right up to the Puff of feathers ,l just savored the time with it & only shot the .410 for the hunt ,it is something that still haunts my dreams .

So any one thinking of going DO IT, Argentina is easily in the top 3 of the many countries we have lived & worked in & even my missus agrees the Argentinian woman are up their with the Columbian for looks & taking pride in their appearance of any where .
@Ryan,if you do decide to take your own gun ,hit me up & l will help you where l can ,there are many Immigration or Customs you do not want to go any where near, for example if you are travelling through Buenos Aires with guns, you will need to hire a transfer agent to help clear your guns and act as the guarantor of your gun while in the country (a rort) , same with some local airlines & l recommend you get a consulate letter, these cost $80/100 from memory.

IMO much easier the first time to just use a approved locals & then set up for your own gun on your return (go once & you will be hooked)

Jose due to the hospitality we were shown by the Argentinian locals over the years ,if you ever come to New Zealand you are welcome at my table anytime .

Argy Duck & Dove Hunting on our own time

Thanks @bunji but I adhere to the "travel light" concept and prefer as few potential complications as possible.

Welcome mate, looks like you are a good hunter and have a great deal of knowledge

Originally Posted by Ryan

Thanks @bunji but I adhere to the "travel light" concept and prefer as few potential complications as possible.

Yes as l said IMO that is the best option in most cases these days, but especially in countries where travel through places bringing you in directly in contact with dodgy bureaucracies may happen due to last minute travel plan changes etc

@ bunji Thank you very much for your welcome and your hospitality.
A big hug from Argentina
To anyone who decides to visit Argentina, and has decided to hunt, take into account what @ bunji said. Bad and corrupt bureaucracy and officials could disrupt your journey.
I take this opportunity to clarify where I hunt and where I would take them to hunt.
As I said in another moment, I am going to hunt in fields of friendly people, they are not hunting grounds where you have to pay to hunt.
It is spending a few good days enjoying what we like the most, hunting, good roasts and good talks. I am already campaigning to try to learn to speak English well, I would like to learn Maori, but I don't think time is enough.
Both my friends and I, we are not rich but we have a lot of hospitality, therefore, you will be welcome.

Salt and pepper, bell pepper, onion, garlic and jalapeño crushed and mixed with a little white wine and then with a spoon. Creole sauce

Map of the province of Santa Fe. The map resembles a boot, almost on the heel of the boot my hometown can be located.

Originally Posted by JLF

@ bunji Thank you very much for your welcome and your hospitality.
A big hug from Argentina
To anyone who decides to visit Argentina, and has decided to hunt, take into account what @ bunji said. Bad and corrupt bureaucracy and officials could disrupt your journey.
I take this opportunity to clarify where I hunt and where I would take them to hunt.
As I said in another moment, I am going to hunt in fields of friendly people, they are not hunting grounds where you have to pay to hunt.
It is spending a few good days enjoying what we like the most, hunting, good roasts and good talks. I am already campaigning to try to learn to speak English well, I would like to learn Maori, but I don't think time is enough.
Both my friends and I, we are not rich but we have a lot of hospitality, therefore, you will be welcome.

@JLF ,Jose you are rich in Spirit & kind of heart, that is more than most men & you have just provided a clear example of how we thought the Argentinian values were very similar to ours here in New Zealand, you would fit in here no problem & enjoy our life style to the hilt .

I have a busy day ahead on our Farm ,so if l do not get a chance all the best from my wife & I for the New Year ..

Que tengas un gran año nuevo y que los dioses de la caza te miren con bondad.

Originally Posted by 7mm Rem Mag

Welcome mate, looks like you are a good hunter and have a great deal of knowledge

Thanks for the welcome. I really like hunting and I do my best to try to do better every time. I appreciate your words

Originally Posted by bunji

@JLF ,Jose you are rich in Spirit & kind of heart, that is more than most men & you have just provided a clear example of how we thought the Argentinian values were very similar to ours here in New Zealand, you would fit in here no problem & enjoy our life style to the hilt .

I have a busy day ahead on our Farm ,so if l do not get a chance all the best from my wife & I for the New Year ..

Que tengas un gran año nuevo y que los dioses de la caza te miren con bondad.

I thank you with all my heart for your words.
My best wishes, of peace, calm, health and tranquility for you and your whole family in this new year that is yet to be born.