Thread: 22 Terminator

After a couple of false starts with reamer issues I have finally got my 22-Terminator up & running

It is a long throated 22-204 Ruger, which is a very simple neck up of the 204 brass & easy/economical dies.

I have built a couple so far & they are both going extremely well with sub half moa groups at 100.

They are a Tikka T3 ex 223 1-8 re-chambered, barrel & bolt fluted, with extended magazine to take the long pills.

Initial results with Norma brass have the 53 Vmax at 3700fps, 75 Amax at 3200fps with the full length barrel.

Approx 50fps less for the suppressed one which has a 2" shorter barrel.

The 53 V-max is a fairly new release from Hornady & has a .290 BC, the 75 Amax has a .435 Bc according to Hornady.

If you run those numbers into a ballistic calulator the 75 Amax has outstanding performance from such a little case

In suitable conditions the 53 Vmax would suit bunny destruction out to 4-500 & the 75 Amax would double that distance

There is no comparision between this & a .223, it is even faster than the 223AI without the fire forming & special dies.

It is right up there with, or better than a 22-250 with a custom barrel.

Here is the first one, with fluted bolt & barrel, alloy rail, it weighs 2.795 kgs









This one has a 20" barrel & Gun works Maximus suppressor, alloy rail, fluted bolt & barrel & weighs 3.050 kgs









Im looking forward to being able go & shoot some bunnies with my own one

Originally Posted by Kiwi Greg

Im looking forward to being able go & shoot some bunnies with my own one

Am I coming? I recon the girls gun would go well at this

You have the best stuff to play with.

Nice Greg, That can looks ugly as sin on that gun.
Who wants to buy my 204

what do you think of the norma brass ?

Originally Posted by scoped

what do you think of the norma brass ?

Seems to be good in the 204

Is a little soft in other calibres I have tried, but fantastic brass other than that.

What is the difference between the 2 in recoil and grouping. Soon you will be designing a better sewing needle. Classy.

Why wouldnt you just get a Tikka 22/250 and have less hassle?

Cause they only have a 1-14twist rate. This catridge would be nicer on the barrel aswell.

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So what if it has a 1-14 I had a rem 700 in 22/250 and it shot the 70 grain speers just as accurately as it shot 55 grain loads - 1/2 moa. It all depends on the individual rifle.

Originally Posted by von tempsky fan

So what if it has a 1-14 I had a rem 700 in 22/250 and it shot the 70 grain speers just as accurately as it shot 55 grain loads - 1/2 moa. It all depends on the individual rifle.

Fine if you want to shoot bricks.

I think that this a fantastic concept. I would be up for one if Greg had a take now, long time payment, interest free plan. Maybe Gold card discounts too

Is brass easily available and not too expensive? Do you need to fire-form...I'm guessing not from what you have said?

p.s. There is heaps on Google about the 22-204 Ruger. It seems that Greg's version is only differentiated by the long throat reamer and the straight forward fast twist option on the Tika. Which is all good.

Originally Posted by TeRei

What is the difference between the 2 in recoil and grouping. Soon you will be designing a better sewing needle. Classy.

Recoil.....?????

Both the rifles will shoot both the 53 & 75s mint sub 1/2 moa at 100

Originally Posted by von tempsky fan

Why wouldnt you just get a Tikka 22/250 and have less hassle?

If you only wanted to shoot to say 300 ish & didn't mind a shorter barrel life then go for it

But the 22-250 has too slower twist to shoot pills with a decent bc any great distance

That is the biggest draw back with the 22-250, stick a 1-8 barrel on it & it will most likely run basically the same speed with more powder, more noise & more barrel/throat wear.

Originally Posted by Tahr

Fine if you want to shoot bricks.

I think that this a fantastic concept. I would be up for one if Greg had a take now, long time payment, interest free plan. Maybe Gold card discounts too

Is brass easily available and not too expensive? Do you need to fire-form...I'm guessing not from what you have said?

p.s. There is heaps on Google about the 22-204 Ruger. It seems that Greg's version is only differentiated by the long throat reamer and the straight forward fast twist option on the Tika. Which is all good.

No fire forming, sraight neck up & you are good to go.

Ps the Speer has a listed BC of .214 so it is indeed a brick, The 53 V-max is listed as .290 & the 75 Amax is .435, no comparision at all....

Nice