Thread: Terminator muzzle brakes VS suppressors

Here is a comparison I did today using the 22 Terminator & two of my brakes & two suppressors.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32yEcdeO8Nw

Nice demonstration Greg .

Originally Posted by veitnamcam

Nice demonstration Greg .

Thanks, looking forward to doing one with a bigger calibre so the slide really moves

Very interesting

Originally Posted by Kiwi Greg

Here is a comparison I did today using the 22 Terminator & two of my brakes & two suppressors.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=32yEcdeO8Nw

I bet if you added the weight of the suppressors to the rifle for the un braked / un suppressed test, the movement would be the same. So it is just perceived recoil reduction suppressors users are getting (Due to the noise reduction)

From now on I am going to refer to suppressors as - PLACEBO

Placebo effect: Also called the placebo response. A remarkable phenomenon in which a placebo -- a fake treatment, an inactive substance like sugar, distilled water, or saline solution -- can sometimes improve a patient's condition simply because the person has the expectation that it will be helpful.

No, it would have less effect than a suppressor, remember there are lots of gasses flying out of the muzzle, effectively making it a rocket engine, thrusting it back into you. A suppressor catches these, as the create a lot of the bang, in its baffles and releases them slowly. So there is more felt recoil reduction than just weight and perception.
A brake is more effective as it reverses the direction of these gasses and uses them to pull the rifle forward.

Originally Posted by Spudattack

No, it would have less effect than a suppressor, remember there are lots of gasses flying out of the muzzle, effectively making it a rocket engine, thrusting it back into you. A suppressor catches these, as the create a lot of the bang, in its baffles and releases them slowly. So there is more felt recoil reduction than just weight and perception.
A brake is more effective as it reverses the direction of these gasses and uses them to pull the rifle forward.

@Kiwi Greg can you do another video with the placebo weight added to the rifle?

@Spudattack the rifle weight also reduces felt recoil. So a ???g can will reduce recoil.

Originally Posted by Spudattack

No, it would have less effect than a suppressor, remember there are lots of gasses flying out of the muzzle, effectively making it a rocket engine, thrusting it back into you. A suppressor catches these, as the create a lot of the bang, in its baffles and releases them slowly. So there is more felt recoil reduction than just weight and perception.

Yep but only a very small amount.

This video from ages ago done before I got a video camera was a big eye opener to both myself & a mate there at the time.

I did it several times before I videoed it with my camera, we couldn't believe what was happening.



I have done similar things many times since then & all show about the same about of recoil reduction from a suppressor.

Certainly no where near the amount of recoil reduction anecdotal comments suggest.

Here is a quick video I did yesterday with the ASE & DPT suppressors on the 280 & 30-06 imp max.



The little rifles are nicer to use with a suppressor than brake as the recoil is still manageable.

Spotting you own shots in the field would still be difficult without a great position.

I'm still surprised by the number of T1 & T2 brakes than end up on .223-308 calibres

Originally Posted by Kiwi Greg

Yep but only a very small amount.

This video from ages ago done before I got a video camera was a big eye opener to both myself & a mate there at the time.

I did it several times before I videoed it with my camera, we couldn't believe what was happening.



I have done similar things many times since then & all show about the same about of recoil reduction from a suppressor.

Certainly no where near the amount of recoil reduction anecdotal comments suggest.

Here is a quick video I did yesterday with the ASE & DPT suppressors on the 280 & 30-06 imp max.



The little rifles are nicer to use with a suppressor than brake as the recoil is still manageable.

Spotting you own shots in the field would still be difficult without a great position.

I'm still surprised by the number of T1 & T2 brakes than end up on .223-308 calibres

Thanks for posting that video Greg.

So about a 13% recoil reduction with a Suppressor then? and about 70% with your T2 brake? (as per your first post)
It's a bit hard to get a true result from the Kimber 308 video.

Originally Posted by kokako

Thanks for posting that video Greg.

So about a 10% recoil reduction with a Suppressor then? and about 70% with your T2 brake? (as per your first post)

If you had to use percentages (which I don't like, to easy to manipulate) then yep about that.

Give or take 5%