we don't go to that much trouble . Just dice the the meat , throw in the crock pot or slow cooker with whatever is floating around in fridge veggie wise along with mixed vege , bit of gravy mix , stock or even soup mix depending on what is in the cupboard along with water and let simmer all day .
usually have to eat with a spoon as the meat will often just fall apart if you try and stab it with a fork ...
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