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    fly spray

    Hi all,

    Your take on using fly spray on your uncut, unskinned hanging deer.

    I went hunting with a guide in Whanganui park and the guides used flyspray around the neck and inside the deer. (the didn't take the tenderloins out which next time i will definitely do).

    What is your take on this? Is it safe? I was damn effective.

    Going to fiordland next week for hunting and I bought small can of flyspray i can take in my funny pack but the other hunters are not entirely sure / happy with the prostpect.

    Taco

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taco View Post
    Hi all,

    Your take on using fly spray on your uncut, unskinned hanging deer.

    I went hunting with a guide in Whanganui park and the guides used flyspray around the neck and inside the deer. (the didn't take the tenderloins out which next time i will definitely do).

    What is your take on this? Is it safe? I was damn effective.

    Going to fiordland next week for hunting and I bought small can of flyspray i can take in my funny pack but the other hunters are not entirely sure / happy with the prostpect.

    Taco
    should be fine if just confined to spraying on hair but meat safe much bettter - small portable ones work really well - most will take 3-4 deer -or 6-8 hindquarters -just be careful with the zips - some are very light and flimsy and can catch and rip the delicate cloth mesh - and wash carefully in dish washing liquid when home -dry well
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    Look up some of Shay's vids on YouTube. He uses peppermint oil mixed w water as a good fly repelling spray on carcasses.

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    Look on the package and see what is in it. It is probably not biodegradable, and likely would not be damage by cooking.

    Put it another way, if you had a cooked meal on a plate in front of you, would you spray it with the flyspray in question before consumption?

    We all have different ideas on what is acceptable in our diets, and what we take into our bodies. I've seen people inject stuff to get a high without knowing what they were putting into their veins. Not for me. We get enough toxins in our environment and probably in our food and water supply as it is. In the worst case scenario eating the occaisonal cooked maggot will not harm you, but who knows what consuming fly spray might do to you?
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    man you fellas should have seen what went on back in the early meat hunting days!!!!!!!!
    holy smoke some of the carcasses had some ..shall we say interesting characteristics..... fly spray bombed ones would arguably been better than the ones that needed heavy trimming to remove mechanical rice....
    far better to keep away from flies using either meat safe or fly proof bags INSIDE another fly proof area..and by all means use fly spray in area around it... it might also be very good idea at night to kill off mozzies n sandflies before settling in for the evening... a quick spray into tent sure beats the nighttime buzzing n biting.
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    Use a game bag either buy or make your own out of old sheets. Sometimes I used to use some spray on outside of them depending on time of year if flies are bad can be helpful but on gamebag, not animal.

    If you get a blood patch on gamebag can be a big attraction, need to make sure no flies sneak inside before tying off. Handy if leaving deer for a while to carry on hunting.
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    Black pepper does a reasonable job aswell. Aslong as the spray isn't directly sprayed onto the meat you'll be fine
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    An old trick from some canary breeders I knew, was to plant Marigolds, around the aviaries in which they kept their prize birds. The reason was that Marigolds, apparently are full of Pyrethrin a naturally occurring insecticide.

    https://arifgudul.gen.tr/do-marigold...ain-pyrethrin/

    vis : Pyrethroids are synthetic insecticides based on natural pyrethrum (pyrethrins); one common example is permethrin. A common formulation of pyrethrin is in preparations containing the synthetic chemical piperonyl butoxide: this has the effect of enhancing the toxicity to insects and speeding the effects when compared with pyrethrins used alone. These formulations are known as synergized pyrethrins.

    It is my understanding that the ingredients in Fly Spray are related to or derived from Pyrethroids. One I'm looking at right now has - Tetramethrin, Phenothrin and Allethrin.

    As one who sprays Fly Spray directly onto my skin and clothes, when confronted with any number of Mozzies or Sandflies, I am not worried about food, that may get a bit of spray on it.


    No doubt someone with a better Chemistry education, will be able to give a more definitive opinion on this.
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    You'll have worse critters to worry about than flies in fiordland
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    Quote Originally Posted by country cuts View Post
    Black pepper does a reasonable job aswell. Aslong as the spray isn't directly sprayed onto the meat you'll be fine
    True,true, back in those naughty meat collecting days many a carcass left it's home territory with pepper and fly spray in every opening, not ti mention those wriggly things holding their parties while in the air
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    I carry a can of this..... https://nzsafetyblackwoods.co.nz/en/...l-each--173967
    After gutting the deer I spray the outside of the carcase ( skin on) and give a quick spray inside the body cavity. I figure if its good enough and safe enough to use in food manufacturing its good enough to use on the hill.
    Did an experiment a few years back. Blazing hot summers day, shot a fallow deer and while gutting it the first blow flies were on scene. Dropped the gut bag about a metre away from the deer, sprayed the carcase with Slay and then had a brew and lunch and watched. Blowies would fly to the carcase, do a uturn without landing and go settle on the gut bag......continued hunting for a couple of hours and went back to pick the deer up.....carcase hadnt been blown at all but the gut bag was covered in eggs.

    Btw, it is a similar spray that they used to walk down the aisle in aircraft and spray to kill bugs. ( The aircraft spray is called Arandee and differs only in that the propellant is non inflamable)


    Quote from the product (Slay)
    • Fully compliant industrial strength insecticide
    • Odourless, hypo allergenic formulations
    • Non residual formulation, micro fine atomisation to enhance kill rate
    • Dry spray, non staining spray
    • Economical large format can
    • Used extensively in food manufacturing and hospitality sites and DHBs throughout New Zealand
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    I saw a can of something in GC labelled as carcass spray , can't remember the name , but was designed to do exactly what you are after , so there are definitely more appropriate sprays , and hopefully safer , for the job than household fly spray.....
    Hell , take a couple of salt guns , have some fun and go postal on their arses.....
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    I for one don't take everything an authority says at face value. The 'Authorities' can be quite lax about OUR health. When deploying overseas I was issued with one and a half years worth of Doxycycline, to be taken daily to prevent Malaria (18 months on a stiff antibiotic FFS!!!) and concentrated Permethrin to wash all my uniforms in weekly, again to kill mossies.

    The only thing I did use that permethrin for was painting the window sills and door surrounds with, to kill any attempting to get into the house. That and wearing long trou and shirts all day every day, despite the weather screaming for T shirt and shorts!

    The blowie in the Alpine environment truly is a marvel. There on the scene just after the bullet arrived. What the f@ck did they live on before deer and guns came along????
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    Quote Originally Posted by Micky Duck View Post
    man you fellas should have seen what went on back in the early meat hunting days!!!!!!!!
    holy smoke some of the carcasses had some ..shall we say interesting characteristics..... fly spray bombed ones would arguably been better than the ones that needed heavy trimming to remove mechanical rice....
    far better to keep away from flies using either meat safe or fly proof bags INSIDE another fly proof area..and by all means use fly spray in area around it... it might also be very good idea at night to kill off mozzies n sandflies before settling in for the evening... a quick spray into tent sure beats the nighttime buzzing n biting.
    yes Mickey Duck we used to pick odourless fly spray so old smart nose at the Tiniroto chiller hopefully could not pick it up and refuse to buy carcass

 

 

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