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    2-8 or 2-12 leupolds are available as a substitute seeing as im poo pooing on the idea

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    Quote Originally Posted by hotbarrels View Post
    Only negative with the Patrol is the exposed turrets, which in themselves are fine, but the very aggressive finish on them can knock come bark off your hand, and could be prone to rotation if you are actually 'bush bashing'. I have a Patrol and would personally stick with the standard VXR.
    That's a good point, I am careful with my my rifle but it is a bush basher.

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    Thanks for all the great advise guys.
    Think I'll go with the vxr 2-7.
    I'm sure I don't need more than 7x.
    Sounds like I'm not missing anything special by not having 1x.
    Still a week or 2 before I have the funds so plenty of time to change my mind yet lol.
    Outdoorsupples the best place to buy?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timmay View Post
    @SlowElliot I have a mod7 at home waiting for me to put a swaro 3-9x36 on it using exlow talleys.
    My gripe with Leupolds is the variable length of eye relief between high and low power (eye box also tightens up at highest power) I'll take a pic for you to show clearance later
    Where did you get the extra low mounts from @Timmay?

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    Anywhere that sells Talley can order them. Just give them the product code I got it from Talley website

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timmay View Post
    Anywhere that sells Talley can order them. Just give them the product code I got it from Talley website
    Cheers.

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    Just some thoughts on your options. I note that in the first place you have already decided you need a scope.

    Does your "bush basher" have iron sights? If you only ever shoot up to 100 m do you need magnification? Magnification comes at a cost of parallax error which is minimised by using the low iron sights (lower than the lowest ever mounted scope) something we all know from our airgun days. And iron sights snag less.

    If use scope vs iron sights at different distances say 25m-100m, some of the extra precision made possible by the optic sight gets cancelled by its greater parallax error (unless you use mil-dots and remember to aim high/low depending, which is not great for fast shots).

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    Have had a 2x7 Burris on my .308 for years its a great compact light scope a leupy 2 x7 would be great too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cordite View Post
    Just some thoughts on your options. I note that in the first place you have already decided you need a scope.

    Does your "bush basher" have iron sights? If you only ever shoot up to 100 m do you need magnification? Magnification comes at a cost of parallax error which is minimised by using the low iron sights (lower than the lowest ever mounted scope) something we all know from our airgun days. And iron sights snag less.

    If use scope vs iron sights at different distances say 25m-100m, some of the extra precision made possible by the optic sight gets cancelled by its greater parallax error (unless you use mil-dots and remember to aim high/low depending, which is not great for fast shots).
    I think you might be talking about the height difference between sight line and bore line. That's different to parallax - parallax is the apparent change of your crosshairs position relative to target depending on the angle you're looking through the scope (i.e. eye not central behind the scope). It's not something you compensate with by aiming high/low.

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    Hi Paul,

    Thanks. Yes, I should have specified that I was referring to sight above bore height. It is actually more precise to discuss parallax error as a result of different causes.

    "Sight height above the bore" introduces one form of "parallax error" or parallel axis error. This form of parallax error is common to all sight types, optic and iron, and arguably the more significant one as it cannot be cancelled out by using a correct viewing angle. It can only be reduced by getting whatever sight you have as close as possible to the bore.

    Parralax from viewing angle error is incidentally a non-issue with rear diopter ring iron sights.

    Different story with open iron sights where viewing angle error (thus improperly aligning notch and post) introduces horizontal and/or vertical parallax error from the bore.

    The only ZERO parallax free sighting method is boresighting, for close up shooting, but it is quite slow. (-:

    I would be interested in hearing a good reason why SlowElliott, who presumably hunts medium sized game such as deer, goats, feral sheep etc. when bush hunting, should bother forking out for a scope given his <100m requirements?

 

 

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