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Wingman .22TCM Micro Varmint rifle... 30-10-2018, 11:08 PM
Moutere Awesome. Looks like that... 31-10-2018, 01:31 AM
rossi.45 interesting build . . what... 31-10-2018, 07:15 AM
199p Mate thats cool as little... 31-10-2018, 08:13 AM
223nut Would be an ideally tool to... 31-10-2018, 12:19 PM
yerimaginaryM8 Very Nice! hope it goes well... 31-10-2018, 03:52 PM
csmiffy Yup and considering that the... 31-10-2018, 05:00 PM
Wingman Nah wont be neck turning, the... 31-10-2018, 06:17 PM
nor-west I want one!! 31-10-2018, 04:32 PM
R93 22k Hornet has had its day? ... 31-10-2018, 05:31 PM
Wingman Ha I knew Id get a rise out... 31-10-2018, 06:30 PM
R93 Rise? Just having a... 31-10-2018, 06:42 PM
Wingman thanks for the heads up on... 31-10-2018, 06:49 PM
R93 I got velocity and reasonable... 31-10-2018, 07:01 PM
Wingman So I assembled a few more... 31-10-2018, 07:09 PM
Wingman Before grouping I wanted to... 31-10-2018, 07:41 PM
Wingman So after some promising... 31-10-2018, 08:00 PM
Marty Henry I had that once man it gives... 02-11-2018, 03:24 PM
nor-west I really want one now... 31-10-2018, 08:01 PM
southernman I like this thread, I've been... 31-10-2018, 09:05 PM
csmiffy Are there any rifles primo... 01-11-2018, 05:28 PM
Wingman Id say anything with a .223... 01-11-2018, 05:58 PM
Wingman I loaded some more Hodgdon... 01-11-2018, 11:11 PM
csmiffy Well considering what you... 02-11-2018, 05:28 PM
rossi.45 this is getting really... 02-11-2018, 07:35 AM
Micky Duck lil gun sure has been a... 02-11-2018, 09:04 AM
Bill999 Very cool 02-11-2018, 01:48 PM
Wingman The possibilities are... 02-11-2018, 06:06 PM
csmiffy Fair enough. Good intel though 02-11-2018, 07:42 PM
Kamel I realize you might be busy,... 02-11-2018, 10:31 PM
Wingman The Shilen 1-14" is finished... 03-11-2018, 06:44 AM
Kamel With the 465 action, I am... 03-11-2018, 10:56 PM
6x47 Brno Fox v 465 = Maccas v... 03-11-2018, 08:38 AM
viper Awesome thread....where's the... 04-11-2018, 07:34 AM
Wingman Ha ha.. calm down you lot... 04-11-2018, 08:08 AM
svt40 Fantastic write up, photos... 04-11-2018, 10:58 AM
Wingman Thank you for that.. Ill... 04-11-2018, 11:46 AM
Kamel Fair go there Wingman, we are... 04-11-2018, 12:21 PM
csmiffy I like everything but the... 04-11-2018, 12:23 PM
Wingman Cz 527 and brno fox bolt... 04-11-2018, 01:36 PM
svt40 I started with a COAL of 38 -... 04-11-2018, 06:17 PM
Wingman My COAL is 39mm running 13gr... 04-11-2018, 06:43 PM
Wingman A little more midnight oil... 07-11-2018, 08:32 PM
csmiffy I like the idea of a blind... 08-11-2018, 05:50 PM
Wingman https://preview.ibb.co/bWzuqA/... 08-11-2018, 11:48 PM
R93 My ES was still around 40fps... 09-11-2018, 12:43 AM
Wingman R93 Yes I am starting to pin... 09-11-2018, 07:22 AM
rossi.45 i am curious myself on how... 09-11-2018, 08:12 AM
Wingman Not really a worry but a... 09-11-2018, 08:36 AM
The Claw This would be a very cool... 16-11-2018, 12:30 PM
Wingman Here it is in .20cal ... 16-11-2018, 04:11 PM
Wingman So I decided to leave the... 09-11-2018, 08:29 AM
R93 I didn't really have or... 09-11-2018, 09:18 AM
Wingman It seems this 20" Shilen... 10-11-2018, 09:01 AM
Micky Duck ok .... I seem to recall... 10-11-2018, 09:34 AM
Wingman Micky Duck thanks for that,... 10-11-2018, 10:24 AM
Wingman Tested the TCM on a soft... 13-11-2018, 10:16 AM
Mathias Brutal :XD: 13-11-2018, 10:35 AM
Micky Duck good to see you left the back... 13-11-2018, 11:41 AM
rossi.45 is this rifle going to get a... 13-11-2018, 01:15 PM
Wingman Both... :thumbsup: Still... 13-11-2018, 01:46 PM
rossi.45 look forward to your results... 14-11-2018, 12:30 PM
Wingman Micky Duck A proper thank... 14-11-2018, 09:34 PM
Barefoot Well that goes in the "you... 15-11-2018, 07:36 AM
Micky Duck awesome it was of help... 15-11-2018, 07:49 PM
Wingman I got it to the stage where... 15-11-2018, 08:45 PM
erniec It is threads like this one... 16-11-2018, 12:16 PM
quadhunter260 This is cool Wingman i... 16-11-2018, 04:56 PM
Wingman I suppose I should also... 16-11-2018, 08:24 PM
Micky Duck 17 tcm wildcat...by the time... 17-11-2018, 08:15 AM
The Claw The barrel life will be many... 17-11-2018, 08:30 AM
Wingman Youd be surprised.. reports... 17-11-2018, 08:36 AM
Micky Duck shouldve gone fishing this... 17-11-2018, 08:43 AM
Wingman :DWhile .17 cals have never... 17-11-2018, 09:17 AM
Kamel I dont think I have ever... 17-11-2018, 10:06 AM
Wingman A little windy this arvo but... 17-11-2018, 07:42 PM
nor-west Lovely group at 3150 but I... 17-11-2018, 08:45 PM
nor-west Brian This is what you need... 19-11-2018, 08:56 PM
Wingman Not a lot to report on the... 24-11-2018, 09:56 PM
Micky Duck mate...you are stiposed to be... 25-11-2018, 09:27 AM
Wingman I prefer them slow cooked in... 25-11-2018, 11:15 AM
Wingman No, I think I had a brain... 25-11-2018, 02:42 PM
Marty Henry A french exchange student who... 25-11-2018, 05:40 PM
Cordite Interesting, so you could... 25-11-2018, 12:22 PM
Micky Duck yes cordite there is one of... 25-11-2018, 01:39 PM
Cordite I looked at uncle Google and... 25-11-2018, 09:49 PM
csmiffy If I had the coin and I... 25-11-2018, 03:50 PM
Wingman Cordite ... and now I quoted... 25-11-2018, 04:29 PM
Wingman Flyblown killing some steel... 29-11-2018, 03:46 PM
Flyblown I thought I’d better wear my... 29-11-2018, 04:15 PM
Scout Very cool little round &... 06-12-2018, 01:51 PM
Wingman The mag is the limiting... 06-12-2018, 05:34 PM
Barefoot I must admit using a .222 in... 06-12-2018, 06:24 PM
Scout Ha thanks for that, I can... 07-12-2018, 11:57 AM
nor-west That last photo puts it into... 06-12-2018, 05:58 PM
Wingman Yes its a midget compared to... 06-12-2018, 06:18 PM
Kamel I keep coming back to this... 08-12-2018, 09:28 AM
Wingman After a boxing day gong shoot... 27-12-2018, 09:20 PM
Wingman The .22 TCM finally got its... 15-01-2019, 11:41 PM
Wingman And just for fun, a 16"... 16-01-2019, 08:31 AM
Wingman I didnt weigh it but probably... 16-01-2019, 03:46 PM
rewa A thought regarding Alliant... 16-01-2019, 05:04 PM
Wingman Quick update on the... 20-01-2019, 10:17 PM
Ryan_Songhurst Thats a cool rig! Stock... 20-01-2019, 10:29 PM
nor-west Are you going to offer it for... 20-01-2019, 10:47 PM
Wingman Yes, but I still need to make... 20-01-2019, 10:54 PM
Sidney Nice mate - like your work 20-01-2019, 10:49 PM
Mathias Bit of info for those who are... 18-04-2019, 07:32 PM
Wingman Yip $50 per 100 pieces.... 18-04-2019, 09:19 PM
Jaco Goosen I might just take you up on... 19-04-2019, 12:15 AM
Wingman That one sold.. happy to... 19-04-2019, 01:20 PM
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    .22TCM Micro Varmint rifle build

    .22TCM Varmint Rifle build

    The .22 TCM is a cartridge designed to run out of a 1911 pistol magazine and reaches a scorching 2000fps with a 40gr bullet for the 5” barrel.





    That to me just screams fun in a longer rifle barrel.
    The parent case is a .223Rem cut down to 1.030” and necked back down to .224 without neck turning leaving the brass thicker.

    I purchased some factory made Armscor Precision Co brass just to get going but will probably make my own from some quality match brass at a later date.
    The brass was hard and was very temperamental when trying to seat flat based bullets, I had a few collapsing in the press so I annealed them and chamfered all the case mouths. This fixed the issue and Im set to go. I might make up a neck flaring die to help seat the flat bases bullets concentric.





    Factory loading dies are being made by Lee, Redding and Hornady and I have picked ups some Lee’s and some Redding to test.



    I also ordered a custom ground chamber reamer for it form USA and it arrived in a timely manor.

    The idea here was not to make a screaming fast and loud wildcat, but a very versatile economical small game cartridge to be able to make under any circumstances (500+rds per pound of powder).

    I found the TCM after trying to decide one what to replace my .22 magnum with for busting longer range bunnies.
    .22 magnum ammo is ridiculously over priced at $35 per 50 rounds of 30gr Hornady V-max (the only ammo my semi shoots well) and really has no more effective “accurate” range than my CZ .22lr shooting CCI stds which I can pick up for not much more for a 500 round brick.

    221 fireball was an option but was nipping at the heals of my .222 and .223s which are a little too much of an overkill and a touch noisy in some areas I do pest control.
    The idea of another .22 K hornet bored me and I had a few over the years and the brass is terrible stuff that is prone to neck splits and case head separation with anything other than soft loads. Lets be real here though, it was designed in 1885 as the .22 WCF, a black powder cartridge shooting cast lead…
    Personally I feel it has had its day and I had a modern replacement in my sights.

    .22 TCM seemed to have potential and cheap yet versatile small game cartridge.
    I was definitely in the mindset of a reloadable micro centre fire case as I have a few CZ 527s and a Brno Fox which are the perfect small actioned rifle to be chambered for this cartridge!
    Advantages... Obviously higher velocities than 22lr/mag, but also uses modern rimless cases and can be made from readily available 222 rem, 223 rem, 5.56, .204rug brass etc.
    Case capacity is about the same as a 22 K Hornet, but will withstand much higher pressures if needed.

    .22 TCM is a proprietary case not SAAMI approved and there is no load data published for it by any bullet or powder manufacturers.
    This made it hard for me to decide on a bullet and barrel twist.
    Choices of .224 bullets are endless and you could even use heavy cast bullets for some quiet subsonic loads.

    After a bit of thought I have chosen to run 40gr ballistic tip varmint bullets and will be testing a range of manufacturer’s offerings. I will hope to push them to 3000fps and maybe run some 50gr to 53gr bullets too which will suit the 1-14” to 1”12” twist.

    I was also unsure how long the barrel would need to be as there is not a lot of info out there in regards to using rifle powders in this case instead of the pistol powders intended for the 5” pistol barrels.

    For this reason I decided to make a prototype for testing purposes before I set up my nice match grade barrel.
    I pulled an old Remington 700 1- 12” twist 24” long Varmint barrel off my shelf that had a worn out throat and a little bit of pitting around the muzzle end from being stored with a suppressor attached.
    It has been well used but it will serve to give me the data I need.






    I cut off the old .223 chamber and threaded it to fit the CZ 527 then chambered and crowned it finishing up at 22” long. I intend to find the best powder for it and then start cutting it down an inch at a time until the velocity drops. I suspect the case will be super efficient and wont need a long barrel to reach total burn and max velocity with fast burning rifle powders.










    I loaded up a few test rounds with 11gr of ADI 2205 as it was a medium load for the .22 K hornet which shares “almost” the same case capacity. This gave 2700fps over the chrono which was 300fps faster than the ADI hornets published load with a 24” barrel, very promising.







    With no pressure signs and the spent cases looked great I slowly increased the charge to a max compressed load of 12.2gr of 2205 which produced 2838fps.
    This is all I can get out of the 2205 due to case capacity not pressure issues.



    I tried a full compressed load of 2207 as well which was 11.5gr and that only got me 2165fps so clearly to slow of a burn for this cartridge.

    I need to get my hands on some Hodgdon LilGun as it has a similar burn rate but less bulk. I have read that 14.5gr of Lilgun fills the same volume .22 K Hornet case and gets the best velocities from that cal with 40gr bullets.
    I will also run some tests with some Hodgdon H110 tomorrow and see what that can do.
    It is possible that the 22” barrel is actually restricting the velocity rather than aiding it but I will find out in due course.
    The muzzle report unsuppressed sounds like a .22 magnum and there is no recoil worth mentioning.
    I hope to get it as short as 16” to 18” and run a small suppressor so it will be a very handy varminting tool

    Once I get a load sorted Ill put it on paper and see how it does. The new chamber cleared the worn throat section and I cut the muzzle thread off and re crowned it so the bore is actually in pretty good shape now, it should shoot well.

    Another project will be making a new mag follower and block to fit in the rear of the mag to get these shorties to feed better from the mag.


 

 

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