My Gunsmith Jim you mean?
Not 100% sure-we were at the gunclub and a squad was up so didn't hear everything he said.
he didn't rate hoppes as much as other stuff. I think KG 12 may have been mentioned?
he gave it heaps and it could do with a little more. When I did it, it destroyed my cheap ass brush and my newly purchased foam cleaner wouldn't go all the way down the barrel properly so I didn't get much out on my go. I just though the barrel was a bit rough.
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