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    A shortish tall guy ROKTOY's Avatar
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    Hand me down Model 70

    My Father passed away late last year.

    Fast forward to early March this year and my lad (12yrs) and I are on my Uncles farm helping to replace wheel bearings on his trailer.
    Uncle goes over to his Ute and calls my boy over.
    "You never met your grandfather, which is a real shame. But I would like you to have this, it was his and I think you can give it a good home. It needs a bit of work done, but I think you will appreciate it later on"
    He then took a Winchester Model 70 .243 out of the back seat and handed it to my Boy.
    "Would you like to clean this up and have it for yourself?"

    You can imagine the reaction. His and mine both.
    "One condition though lad, the first animal you shoot with it has to be with me"
    A pretty cool moment.
    Fast forward to today and we finally get a chance to pull the rifle out of the safe for a bit of TLC.

    It had a fair bit of surface rust on the barrel and rings and it was in need of a decent clean up.
    I had picked up a Birchwood Casey Bluing kit, so we read the instructions, read them again and made a start.

    Scope and rings off, barrel and action removed from the stock.
    A quick degrease and then on with the rust and blue remover.
    A rinse off and out with the 600 grit and steel wool.
    A number of hours spent sanding and polishing and the rings, bottom plate and barrel and action are starting to shine.
    Mum gets home from work so time to pack it all away until tomorrow.

    The rifle came with a 4x32 Nikko Stirling Gold Crown AirKing scope on it. My Uncle at age 73 reckons it is a shooter, He used it the morning prior to handing it my boy to drop a large boar at 125 yards. "not bad" he reckoned.
    I will swap the scope for a 3-9x40 VX1 or a Nikon Monarch 2.5-10x42 once my boy has fulfilled his great uncles wish.











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    Last edited by ROKTOY; 22-05-2022 at 12:29 AM.

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    Those Airking scopes are great on rimfire. If you are teaching him to shoot, perhaps Grandads scope on a 22 would be a plan. A 4x32 is not my first choice for a centrefire rig, but the Airkings are actually very under rated and really a very good scope.
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    Cool project, and great first rifle for a young fella .
    Interested to see how it turns out and what the first animal will be .
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    Awesome!
    I cant wait to see how it all turns out!
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    that is an awesome rifle..the stock is far nicer/more classy than most of its kin came out with...serial number isnt a long way off my old deceased one which would make it a early 80s model.... the triggers are super easy to adjust and cant off top of head think of any of these rifles that just wouldnt shoot well.
    good on you for doing the restoration,that rifle will be a heirloom for generations to enjoy.
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    Thats awesome
    I bet your young fulla was fair fizzing after that surprise
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    What a great family project.
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    Thats the sort of story we all like to read, bloody great stuff. Good luck with the rifle Roktoy & son
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    Great job your doing there I look forward to the finished product and reading about the hunt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micky Duck View Post
    that is an awesome rifle..the stock is far nicer/more classy than most of its kin came out with...serial number isnt a long way off my old deceased one which would make it a early 80s model....
    This one is 1976,
    according to https://www.winchesterguns.com/conte...ture-dates.pdf
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    Quote Originally Posted by 7mmwsm View Post
    Great story. And way better than buying a random gun off the shelf for him.
    We have a few firearms in our extended family with history like that.
    We have set a rule that if the firearm is no longer wanted or needed, it gets passed to another family member.
    In the age of instant gratification that is a VERY good rule for a family to have. Its almost impossible to unsell a rifle, especially a good'un.

    I have tried that Birchwood Casey kit many moons ago, and was happy with the results. Will follow with interest.

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    The "boy" in this story is no stranger to the calibre, and will no doubt prove to be a very worthy recipient of such a lovely heirloom
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    Fantastic project for a young fella. I would make one recommendation when doing the bluing to avoid disappointment. CLEANLINESS. Go way further than you think is reasonable. Once you have the parts finished to where you like, clean them all thoroughly with a good degreaser (I really like CRC brakeclean) and then do not touch them with bare hands. Use nitrile gloves, and change the gloves whenever they become contaminated before touching the parts again. Degrease all the parts a second time, then wipe them down with acetone. I specifically recommend acetone rather than any old alcohol as it is very good at removing fine oil films and other contaminants. Lacquer thinner is also a decent option if you have that on hand.

    Once your parts are clean, do your best to keep them that way through the whole process, don't put them down on the bench, put them on a clean cloth, don't pick up a screwdriver or something with gloved hands and then pick up the parts.

    Might seem over the top, but it pays off on the final product.

    Preheating the parts with a heat gun can help depending on the steel, and I tend to leave the paste/solution on far longer than recommended, to the point it starts to grow a little "fur". I then burnish this off with a clean cloth or 0000 steel wool (degreased and washed with acetone). 5 or 6 cycles of this should have the parts looking mighty fine.

    There is so much info on cold bluing out there and everyone has their own methods, many of which work extremely well. One thing that is universal is to have the parts absolutely clean.

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    Wax on, Wax off.

    What a way to fill in a day.
    @SixtyTen you almost had my day pegged.

    So many pairs of gloves later.
    Sand, apply solvent, clean, sand, wire wool, clean, repeat.
    Split the bolt in two, and gave it the treatment this morning. The bolt had a jeweled finish but it was so badly pitted on one side, we decided to go all out and sand it smooth and go for a blued finish.
    Sling studs, bottom plate and scope rings were all given a massive tidy up and set aside. Barrel and action saw another hour or so of sanding and cleaning. There was still quite a bit of pitting showing in places on the barrel but it was clean pitting and showed no sign of corrosion by the time we had finished.
    Lad spent several hours beside me at the table helping clean and sand, and making coffee (crucial to the process if you read the instructions).
    2pm and its time to try bluing. It was now I became a bit apprehensive as the instructions say to leave the solution on the steel for no more than 60 seconds.

    So with a lot of caution we decided to tackle a scope ring first. Instant colour change as we wiped the solution on. 60 seconds and into the sink and rinsed off, looking good we dried it off, hit it quickly with a hair drier to ensure it was completely dry.
    Wow, I'm impressed already.

    Everything got a minimum of three coats, 4-5 in high wear areas, the bolt handle got a few more just for good measure. After each coat we wiped the steel down with a paper towel and used a hair drier to ensure it was completely dry, then set aside as the next part was done. Before the next coat a quick rub with steel wool to remove the oxide build up and then cleaned, dried and treated.
    The 60 second rule was bugging me as there was no way to coat the barrel quick enough to allow it to work evenly over the whole surface so we dealt to the action first, no way I could coat that area itself in 60 seconds let alone the whole barrel as well. so 60 seconds went out the window and we went for it. Barrel coated and we just watched the colour change until we thought it was time to rinse.

    It turned into quite the process, as this essay shows...

    All the parts got set aside for an hour as tea time arrived.








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    Tea done and a movie on the go, we both set to with the supplied anti rust wipes, going over all treated areas removing the last of the oxide build up and cleaning up the bluing.
    While I started re assembling the bolt and the floor plate, and fitting the scope mounts to the action etc. The young fella tackles the stock giving it a grand old cleaning. He refits the butt plate and the sling studs to the stock before we start to rebuild his rifle.

    Re assembly was quick and painless.
    Looking Good. Really Good. I may have reminded him that due to me being the license holder his rifle may have to become mine. "Nope Dad, not happening".
    We slip the Nikon scope into the ring bases and it looks the part, the matte finish looks good on top of the fresh bluing. It just clears the barrel, ideal.
    Uh oh, can't fit the bolt past the ocular lens. Bugger.
    On with the Loopy VX1 and we are all GO.












    Very very happy with the end result. No pitting marks are visible through the bluing. A good even even colour all over.
    I honestly didn't think it would tidy up this well.
    One very happy Son, and he can't wait to show his Great Uncle and line up a hunt with him.
    Me? nearly jealous, as it has come up a treat.
    Last edited by ROKTOY; 23-05-2022 at 12:35 AM.

 

 

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