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    Kindling rifle

    Here’s one for shits and giggles…

    The lads were cleaning out the firewood shed at the homestead, right at the bottom they came across a very sad looking Toz 16. WTF?! Belonged to the grandpa of our old mate who’s in his 60s. So yeah. Been there a long time. Probably last used in anger as a general purpose cosh by the looks of things.

    I really regret not taking photos of it in the condition in which it was found, just got into it one day. Bugger! Barrel was blocked all the way down with mud and crap, couldn’t get a cleaning rod down it, not even one inch. Action was seized, bolt was rusted solid, the forend was split and missing about 3x1” of timber down one side.

    After some determined soaking and in various solvents and gentle persuasion, the bolt came free, followed in time by the barrel blockage. Opening up the barrel felt like a major win, thought it was tickets. More scrubbing, soaking, cleaning (repeat, many times over), and things started to move ok. The firing pin spring tension was still good, same with the wee trigger spring. Out came the Dremel and the fine wire wheels, then the metal polish. The barrel wasn’t pitted! Couldn’t quite believe that. Rubbed down the metal work with 400 / 800 / 1200 grit wet & dry, also no pitting. Amazing.

    Had to bubba the front end of the stock as no way to recover that split forend. Still plenty of timber to hang onto. But the rest of it came up fine with a simple sand and oil (repeat 4 times).

    Polished the woeful trigger components until creep was gone, not too bad now.

    Test day came round this morning… Shoots minute of magpie at 50 yds no bother! Result!

    Made in the USSR in the 1940s probably, anyone get any better idea on the likely date range?

    Good fun little project for a rainy couple of days, pleased it worked out. Great to shoot cans with this with my boys. It’s going back to our old mate soon, nice.

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    , excellent, any rescue is a good rescue.
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    Russian quality, built to be abused and still come out swinging.
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    That is damn impressive, amazing to still be in that condition under all the crud.

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    Would appreciate some suggestions on what to use to provide a protective coating on the exterior steel.
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    I learnt to shoot with one similar...we didnt have the magazine for it so was single feed only. awesome job on the restoration.

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    I’m not just impressed by the rifle’s survival, I’m freakin’ blown away but how it’s come up. After a good scrub the bore was shiny!

    Whatever was the steel recipe was back in those days?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flyblown View Post
    I’m not just impressed by the rifle’s survival, I’m freakin’ blown away but how it’s come up. After a good scrub the bore was shiny!

    Whatever was the steel recipe was back in those days?!
    T34s or German panzers...Panther maybe or Tiger 1....more than likely PKZW IV...


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    Ive looked at duracote or duracoat to refinish a couple of mine but thats as far as ive got...

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    Yeah kinda trying not to spend a single cent on this. Matter of principle!

    (For example, I have been known to strain and re-use various solvents….)
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    Is parkerizing an option ?
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    Nicely refurbished.

    Mate had a brand new one circa late 70s. His was a 5 shot.
    His had a very distinctive new smell to it - what did the Soviets make the stock varnish out of?
    They came in for a bit of slagging back then but most of the slaggers, if still around, would have to eat their words given the prices they still sell for and the fact that the examples are still going strong.
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    This is a single shot, @zimmer, so your mate must have had something quite different?
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    Yeah, just Googled it. Looks like the Toz 15 was the 5 shot rifle and then they had a range of models numbered below 17.

    They started off with a Toz-1 then progressed -

    The TOZ-1 is a single-shot .22LR, bolt action cadet rifle designed in 1927 by V. Selivanov and Ya. Kanevsky. The TOZ-1s were made from the late 1920s to early 1930s, until it was replaced with the improved TOZ-8 rifles.
    TOZ-8M — is a single-shot .22LR, bolt action cadet rifle. It is an improved TOZ-8 that was developed after World War II.[2]
    TOZ-8OPF — is a single-shot .22LR, bolt action cadet rifle. It is the TOZ-8M produced by RPC Fort in Ukraine.
    TOZ-9 — is a single-shot .22LR, bolt action rifle. It is the sporting version of the TOZ-8 designed by D. M. Kochetov.
    TOZ-11 — is a single-shot .22LR, bolt action rifle. It is a lightweight version of the TOZ-9 made for hunters and fishermen. It was designed in 1946, by K.I. Shihvatov. The TOZ-11 was an award-winning design, that was about 2 kg lighter than the TOZ-9.[5] The TOZ-11 was produced from 1946 to 1957.[6]
    TOZ-12 — is a single-shot .22LR, bolt action cadet rifle. It is an improved TOZ-8M designed by D. M. Kochetov. It features an adjustable aperture sight.[7]
    TOZ-12OPF — is a single-shot .22LR, bolt action cadet rifle. It is the TOZ-12 produced by RPC Fort in Ukraine.
    TOZ-16 — is a single-shot .22 LR, bolt-action rifle. It is based on the TOZ-11, and was produced using more modern manufacturing techniques.[6]

    The TOZ-17 is a .22 LR, bolt-action repeating rifle with a 5-round detachable magazine. It was designed in 1956.


    I think the later single shots and 5 shots were virtually identical (less the mag cutout) along with their stocks and sights.

    Didn't have Google when my mate had his.

    Another mate had one and made it into a very successful hunter class silhouette rifle. Cut off the bulbous muzzle. Cannot remember if it was a single or mag rifle.
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