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    Marlin Ballard restoration

    Well here I go again

    Just finally got my Marlin Ballard Perfection no.4 38-55 rifle
    Circa 1880
    It's been a long search for a very rare rifle in NZ
    But to me this is the pick of the Marlin Ballard single trigger hunting rifles because it has the forged Norway steel frame
    So can safely be shot with care and could take game again

    The pros are
    Its totally complete with every original part correct and no additional holes or modifictaions
    Complete number matching rifle . Ballards have serial numbers on 7 different major parts
    Its a 38-55
    The walnut butt stock is exceptional
    It has a shotgun butt plate which is much nicer to shoot and despite being hard rubber it isn't cracked

    The cons
    The fore end hanger screw ia not correct
    The hammer picot hole is slogged out and split through the back which has thrown out the half cock firing pin protrusion
    The fore end has a small chip and an old repair done with pink panelbeaters bog

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    So first thing to do is drop out the breech block
    That's what Ballards are all about

    This one is very tidy outside and a joy to see the twin matching numbers on the back of it
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    Quite tricky to get the two halves un screwed and priesed apart
    And inside is 100 years of oil and rust

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    All parts soaked overnight, cleaned, checked and assembled this morning

    Found only real major is the hammer pivot screw hole is slogged out and split
    Main lever pivot screw is slightly bent / worn

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    Should look something like this inside the breech block

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    Then on to the much more enjoyable task of seeing that lovely piece of walnut hiding under nearly 150 years of dirt and oil

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    It's pretty exciting to see walnut like that on a no.4 hunting rifle

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    looking great

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    Mate that is a treasure and a bloody good original for BP silhouette.

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    very cool project , will watch with interest.

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    So having a quick look through the Ballard bible writtrn by John Dutcher there is an image of a No.4 special order select walnut with the same shotgun butt and very similar grain

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    And images of Ballard factory original tang sights fir the unique 1.125" hole spacing

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    After market tang sights for the 1.125" spacing

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    And the various front sights that were across the model range

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    So one of my jobs now is to try and find a tang sight for this because i know i can shoot them vastly better than the basic barrel sights

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    Very nice Akaroa. This must have been a very early John Marlin design if 1880. He was a clever man.. established Marlin Firearms in 1870.

    Is it marked JMMarlin or later Marlin Firearms company? Also is it the 29" barrel noted for some of the early Marlin Ballards. Read somewhere some early Ballards had a reversible pin arrangement??? whatever that looks like - enabling the firing of either rimfire or rimless ammo? Please correct comment here as required. Always a treat to see old american burr walnut come up - looks great.

    .38 cal with 55 grains of powder - wonder what powder it used then. Be interesting to see how it shoots..

    Keep us posted.

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    @mudgripz Ballard patent is 1861 and various companies manufactured until bankruptcy

    J M Marlin brought the patent and improved the extractor and manufacturing processes

    There were a huge range of Marlin Ballard models
    The no1s and no2s were cast iron and in pistol calibers

    From no.4 up mostly forged steel
    The no.4 was the pick of the single trigger hunting rifles

    So Marlin to a good and unique design and made it better
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    Yes reversible firing pin was a thing

    Also there was a model that had rimfire and a central percussion nipple

    You could fire facrory rimfire ammo
    Punch a small hole in the middle of the base and re use the case with a percussion cap flash igniting the BP through the hole

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    Beauty, look forward with interest.
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    Yes reversible firing pin was a thing

    Also there was a model that had rimfire and a central percussion nipple

    You could fire facrory rimfire ammo
    Punch a small hole in the middle of the base and re use the case with a percussion cap flash igniting the BP through the hole

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    This is the pre Marlin Ballard dual ignition breech block
    Rimfire flat striker above central percussion nipple
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    And this is the Marlin Ballard dual firing pin
    Rimfire and center fire changed by disassembling the breech block and turning the firing pin over

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    Reversible pin setup rather clever. I think Marlin continued with Ballard rifling - no doubt with changes - for over 100 years. From mid 1950s they did change their rimfires to the new microgroove barrel design which worked a treat. Still does.

    John Marlin a contemporary of John Browning and both were also designing early lever actions in 1880-1890s. Browning designed the iconic Winchester 94, and John Marlin also busy with range of levers from model 1881 - about contemporary with your Ballard No 4 hunter. Have not seen any early Marlin levers and know nothing about them - though one of those early levers was the predecessor of the later Marlin 336s. John Browning's Winchester 94 design went on to become the biggest selling centrefire sporter in history. Marlin 336 lever the second biggest seller. Those boys knew their business..

    Might have to pop over the hill to have at that rifle akaroa...
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