Up close and personal in the bush obviously but as mentioned possibly scrub between me and the prey... hence why 45/70... out to maybe 200 or so. Pretty tight bush in the areas in doc we go to. Most of our goat shooting would be no more than 50 which is obviously no issue but it's deer or even pigs that I want quick kills for , why I like the big boys calibres . That said I dropped a very large pig on the spot with my evil 223 at 80 mtr but also heart shot a littler one at 30 and it ran off and we never found it... and I didn't like that. But I wouldn't have shot a red with that rifle.
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