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Thread: Resurrecting a 159 Year old 44 Rimfire

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    Resurrecting a 159 Year old 44 Rimfire

    Here's a piece of history you don't see often

    I saw the very nice vintage 44 Rimfire last year and told its owner I would love to make some brass for it and we could try shooting it.
    And mentioned if he ever wanted to sell it I would be interested

    Well HD contacted me recently and it is now mine.

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    It's a Ballard's 1861 Patent
    Made by Ball & Williams in 1865
    Sporting rifle
    30" barrel
    Cambered in 44 Ballard Long Rimfire
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    How do you make the rimfire brass

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    Hey how about making a reloading tool to go with it. Pocket of boolits, 3 bits of brass, flask of powder and off ya go!

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    Here are some of the rimfires I now shoot

    22 LR
    25 RF reloadable and an original
    44 Ballard long rimfire dummy

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    The 44 Ballard long is the biggest of the 44 RF cases of that period

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    Ball & Williams made 16000 Ballard's between 1863 and 1865
    Most were military for the Civil War

    This rifle is sporting and in the last 500 made of the
    16,000
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    Haha - a .44rimfire semi-auto anyone? Gold...

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    Long or extra long? Ballard made rifles for the 44 long before he developed the 44 extra long in 1870. There's only 1/4 inch difference in case length. Either way that's a cracking piece

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    It has the 1894 patent dual ignition.
    Rimfire and percussion

    You can punch a small hole in the fired cartridge base.
    Fill with BP and seat a bullet
    Place a percussion cap on the nipple and fire

    It was highly regarded at the time
    This breech block is missing the nipple but the threads are still good

    You can see the thread halves on each side of the breech block halves

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    The Ballard breech block has all the hammer and trigger moving parts fixed in it which is why the triggers are so good
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    So I made a dummy case from a 7x57R case much modified

    Turned a standard 210 grain .429 bullet into a heeled bullet by turning down the last band in the lathe to fit thumb tight in the case mouth
    And tested it for case length and cartridge over all length

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    The extractor is the little finger lever under the fore end
    It is perfectly parallel to the bore and gave reliable extraction with the variably sized 44 RF brass of those times

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    could you make a steel case that's rimfire? one shot brass screams $$$

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    lots of work there mate dressing up some of those munted screws - but you will do it

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    Hi Its great to see this ole gale get some love and attention Good luck to see the job through and hopefully the barrel will shoot well too Cheers

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    These cases are rimfire reloadable

    Drill trough the primer pocket 5mm
    Tap it M6x1
    Screw in an M6 machine screw
    Solder it in
    Cut it off and mill the case base flush
    Drill, ream and rebate to take a 6mm blank cap
    Cut relief for the firing pin nose

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    Test fire a few blanks to check ignition

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    So I could cram 24 grains of BP under the 210 grain heeled bullet

    And outside to fire the first shot about 4 hours after I started
    In that time I've stripped and reassembled the entire rifle
    Cast the chamber and muzzle to get meaningful data to make the case from

    Made the one reloadable case

    First shot from a rough rest at 25m and of course safety glasses so not a perfect sight picture

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    Two more trips inside to deprime and reload the one case and this result

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    I think that's as good as you could ever hope to do first up.

    Once I've made 20 reloadable cases it will be off hunting asap
    Just think of it as being as effective as a sub sonic 44 magnum
    And way cooler

    It's around 8 pounds so a joy to shoot and being a Ballard it has a superb trigger at 3 pounds
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    I look forward to seeing photos WHEN you have it set up for percussion too.thats almost an modern inline sort of arrangement years before it's time.
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    75/15/10 black powder matters

 

 

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