7.62x39 Ammo Identification

Hi, I'm new to the forum.

First question, is this the appropriate group to ask questions about ammo identification? Apologies if I'm in the wrong place.

I have an open spam can of 7.62x39 and want to make sure I have all the details correct before attempting to sell.

What I think so far is: - Steel case, FMJ (probably steel core, copper washed), lacquer sealed at neck and primer, made in 1973 in Romania , powder manufactured in 1972.
Rounds are packed in plain unbleached cardboard boxes of 20 rounds and have no writing on the boxes.
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My bullet puller is packed away, otherwise I would pull a projectile, weigh it and cut it in half to check.
Will the primers be corrosive?

Can someone help confirm my identification and add anything more.

Any help Appreciate :-)

Jim

more than likely 123grn??..most of it is. possibly the forum is wrong but no biggie. one of the guys who used lots of this stuff will be along soon with answers to what it is.... not as easy to sell anymore as there are far less x39s in usage.

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Originally Posted by Micky Duck

more than likely 123grn??..most of it is. possibly the forum is wrong but no biggie. one of the guys who used lots of this stuff will be along soon with answers to what it is.... not as easy to sell anymore as there are far less x39s in usage.

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Thanks Micky Duck,

Yeah, it was purchased in the semi-auto days :-( Got a bit too much for my bolt action.

BTW, what forum would you recommend? I'm still trying to find my way around here :-)

possibly reloading n ballistics but..yeah nah heres as good as anywhere LOL.

Romanian 123gr FMJ steel core. Not restricted. Aoraki Ammo were selling them a few years back 5-6yrs $500 a case of two spam cans. Not bad ammo. Berdan primed as most ex-Eastern block stuff was.

Hey Tasbay, thank you for the confirmation and additional info.

Excuse my ignorance but what does "Not restricted" mean and would you know if the primers are corrosive?

Also, out of interest, do you know what the PSgs stands for on the spam lid? I thought this was the typical place to ref the projectile type but couldn't find a ref?

Jim

not restricted...means its ok to own it.... some tracer and armour piercing stuff would put you on a naughty list

heres the original info FYI

https://www.facebook.com/86129845726...0406320023912/

Expect it to be corrosive, it was made in the 70s and Romanian is reputed to be non corrosive only sometime after the 1990s

1943PS is the original reference for the 'standard' 7.62x39 bullet - mild steel jacket over lead core. Standard as in not hardened, not armour piercing, not tracer, just bog standard general purpose. Which is likely what was meant by not restricted.

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Originally Posted by Micky Duck

not restricted...means its ok to own it.... some tracer and armour piercing stuff would put you on a naughty list

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I thought so but wanted to check it wasn't a more specific term, thx :-)

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Originally Posted by svt40

heres the original info FYI

https://www.facebook.com/86129845726...0406320023912/

Expect it to be corrosive, it was made in the 70s and Romanian is reputed to be non corrosive only sometime after the 1990s

1943PS is the original reference for the 'standard' 7.62x39 bullet - mild steel jacket over lead core. Standard as in not hardened, not armour piercing, not tracer, just bog standard general purpose. Which is likely what was meant by not restricted.

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Yeah, that looks like the ammo I've got. Thanks for the FB ref and the additional info, much appreciated :-)

What I meant by not restricted is it`s not Armour piercing, Tracer, incendiary or any other ammunition that is now prohibited. It`s just standard ex-communist block jacketed soft steel core with corrosive Berdan primers. Which is why SKS , AK and other Communist block barrels were Crome bored. Nothing a jug of boiling water won`t fix, still plenty of 303 Enfield's around , after years of shooting Berdan primed ammunition.

I shoot pretty well nothing else out of my Ruger American and prior to that My Ruger Mini30 ( before Jacinda took it off me). No Rot issues just clean it.

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Originally Posted by Tasbay

What I meant by not restricted is it`s not Armour piercing, Tracer, incendiary or any other ammunition that is now prohibited. It`s just standard ex-communist block jacketed soft steel core with corrosive Berdan primers. Which is why SKS , AK and other Communist block barrels were Crome bored. Nothing a jug of boiling water won`t fix, still plenty of 303 Enfield's around , after years of shooting Berdan primed ammunition.

I shoot pretty well nothing else out of my Ruger American and prior to that My Ruger Mini30 ( before Jacinda took it off me). No Rot issues just clean it.

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All good Tasbay, was just checking cos I'm bit new here.

Yeah, I shot plenty of corrosive ammo through my SKS and AK but like you say chrome bore. I'll still shoot what I have in my CZ 527 and just clean it well, NP :-)

BTW, curiosity got the better of me and I pulled a projectile. I was surprised to find a boattail? And confirmed, soft steel core with steel jacket.

Thanks for your responses, much appreciated.

Yep they are Boat tail. With the war in Ukraine sucking up ammunition including this calibre I wouldn`t be too quick in selling yours off. I doubt there will be much more coming into the country, well the European stuff anyway..

If you decide to sell, What price per 20?

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Originally Posted by Tararua Phil

If you decide to sell, What price per 20?

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Hey Tararua Phil, I put 200 rounds up on TradeMe last nigh https://www.trademe.co.nz/a/marketpl...6?bof=MJ3DkIh0

Cheers Jim,
Would you have anymore than the 200 on the listing? I'm currently up in Hamilton visiting family & could pick up the ammo on the way through to home around Nelson/Motueka in a week or two (yet to book ferry)....in fact can drop off/pick up stuff for anyone that needs it done on my way down.
Phil.

Offer them on here. No.fees and easy comms.
I'd be interested in some depending on the price.

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Hey Phil,
Yeah, I have some more X39, however I've been under a rock for a few years, so I'll wait until my 200 rounds sell on TradeMe on Tuesday night. I also don't have access to the NZHS Buy, Sell and Swap forum, so I can't actually list it here ATM.

With regards to prices, I did see the 1000 round box of Tula sell for $555 the other night. Although that was HP, so I expect more useful and hence more expensive than my surplus FMJ stuff.

I also have some Barnaul 7.62x39 123g HP, non-corrosive, lacquered steel case. Which I think is considered better than the Tula?

Regards,
Jim

Ok Jim. We'll see how it all goes. Would also be keen on the Barnaul & others.
Regards,
Phil.

Hey Phil,

It's actually Wednesday evening for my TradeMe auction.

Can you give me any advice on accessing the NZHS Buy, Sell & Swap forum? I read several notes in the FAQ, and I thought I met the basic requirements?

Regards,
Jim

Sorry for the late reply.
1 Press the 3rd from right squareish icon on above bar on this reply......wording will show up.
2 Press "from computer"or "choose file".... your photos will come up
3 Choose your photo & press enter.
The no 1 wording will show up again,
Press "attach file" (the origonal listing page will show up in a darkened state) & wait for the listing page to indicate the photo is attached."(It will immediately lighten to normal)
Then repeat for each photo.
Give me a call if you have any problems......although I'm not all that computer saavy.
Phil Stedman....027 7175260
Regards,
Phil.